I agree with the last two posts, but I will have been in fire safety for 30 years next year, so I am wondering about collecting a whacking great pension and becoming a fireman. ( A sort of reverse osmosis.) I don't like heights though; do you think that would matter? When there were two very forward thinking ACOs looking after fire safety in LFEPA, they did revamp fire safety in the authority (for a while) and did put a number of officers through the South Bank course in fire engineering, so you cannot assume that there is no one competent in fire safety-- its just some of their guys do a good impersonation of someone who is not the full shilling in fire safety. If they want to make some money for Red Ken by flogging the odd service, what's the harm? If it keeps congestion charging down, I am all for it. I was given some letters after my name once too- I think they stood for Associate of the Royal Society of Engineers, but the thing is I cannot find any trace of such a society, although I am reliably informed there are plenty of members in our profession.[/u]