BS 5499 information required.

[Tom Sutton]

1. if the signs became law requiring retrospective replacement then the Government would have published something and there would be a grace period.

2. Mixing EC & BS symbols has always been frowned upon, so you ideally wouldn't mix ISO & EC signs either.

1. They will become law when Appendix A of Health and Safety (Safety Signs and Signals Regulations) 1996 is revised by EN ISO 7010 as for a grace period there is one in the regs but that was for the previous change over, but there may be a new one, we will have to wait and see.

2. BS EN ISO 7010 is the new standard and is identical to ISO and will be soon ISO BS EN 7010, it is the euro directive that created the so called euro sign which is now history and will be replaced by BS EN 7010 signs in the HS(SSS)R.

[The Colonel]

Gentlemen Confusion reigns, You are quoting so many different standards, e.g.. ISO BS En 7010, EN ISO 7010, BS EN 7010. Can you make it quite clear which are the new standards for signs please. I have read the posts above a number of times and it is about as clear as mud, help a poor old fool see the woods.

[Golden]

Hi Colonel,

I understand your frustration; I think the whole issue of signs lacks clarity although this may help as it does get rid of one of the offenders.

EN ISO 7010 - new standard for graphical signs; i.e. the picture/sign design.
BS 5499 Part 4 is for the design of escape route signing; i.e. where to put directional and final exit signs.
BS 5499 Part 10 for the use of other safety signs including fire safety signs such as extinguisher locations.

[The Colonel]

Golden, thanks for the clarification, I feel a little better now.

Made the mistake of visiting the BSI website sales area. It would appear that there are a number of identical publications which use variations on the 7010 prefix letters. I take it the new BS all are talking about is the amendment issued in Jan 2013, only £264.00.

[Golden]

Yes that's the one .... don't bother buying it there's nothing 'new' in there really it just clarifies what a lot of us have been doing for years anyway. The only worthwhile content is about two pages worth displaying some quite familiar exit signs.

[Tom Sutton]

Being a little pedantic Golden its BS EN ISO 7010:2012 the new standard for safety signs including fire safety and exit signs. All that's is needed now is the Health and Safety (Safety Signs and Signals Regulations) 1996 to be sorted out and schedule 1 to be revised and we can put this saga behind us.

[Golden]

Whatever ... I think the opening foreword sums it all up beautifully ....

"This British Standard is the UK implementation of EN ISO 7010:2012. It is identical to ISO 7010:2011. It supersedes BS ISO 7010:2011, which is withdrawn."