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Mr. P:
Any 'legal' suggestions to help prevent the little darlings who, have learnt how bashing the panic bars on doors, aids their escape? Moving the hardware or changing it may not be an option due to costs. One stressed carer/staff had resorted to 'chains' (on the doors not the kids) but luckily the sins of that were quickly pointed out and, that part of the issue dealt with. Apparently, just telling the kids not to bash the bars, just gives encouragement - HMMM!

Bruce89:
Not sure how strong these little uns are but a quick and easy solution may and I stress may, could be cable ties like you often see in supermarkets. Are panic bars really needed in this case though? Probably not bearing in mind I suspect there is constant supervision and escorted evacuation required.

SeaBass:
Definitely NOT CABLE TIES. The breaking strain  of such devices is way in excess of anything that could be accepted on an exit door. The ties used in supermarkets are easy break security tags. I?ve looked into this before, and although they are commonly used on exit doors, there is no standard for their manufacture or for the required breaking force.  I?ve also seen broken security tags replaced with cable ties, which made the door impassable without the aid of a knife, snips or scissors.   

SeaBass:
If this is a child care facility, then the children will be supervised at all times by a trained and responsible adult. In this case, it would be reasonable to fit a ?Door Open? alarm which staff can easily respond to and prevent Houdini Jnr escaping .  I have been involved in schools for children with special needs and behaviour issues where additional security devices were fitted to the doors, and the risk managed by ensuring that the devices could be easily disabled by an adult and  having trained adult staff present at all times.

Bruce89:
You're right seabass, cable ties was an incorrect description on my part, oops  :o

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