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Technical Advice / Re: fire service intervention in evacuation of a premises
« Last post by colin todd on June 25, 2023, 12:31:40 AM »Davey, I thought you were retiring, or that my instructions to Oddjob had been fulfilled?
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Technical Advice / Re: emergency lighting
« Last post by AnthonyB on June 23, 2023, 07:34:04 PM »No, as that's not the definition of changing room nor the one for the recommendation (multiple not one) and in any case they would have borrowed light as bedrooms (usually) have windows.
You could argue the case for the en-suite toilet being covered as these are for disabled use.
ADB is still quite relaxed on EL provision (especially compared to BS5266) and doesn't indicate it here either.
Just because you don't have to have it doesn't mean you can't of course, particularly if you can demonstrate a distinct positive advantage from it.
You could argue the case for the en-suite toilet being covered as these are for disabled use.
ADB is still quite relaxed on EL provision (especially compared to BS5266) and doesn't indicate it here either.
Just because you don't have to have it doesn't mean you can't of course, particularly if you can demonstrate a distinct positive advantage from it.
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Technical Advice / emergency lighting
« Last post by bevfs on June 23, 2023, 10:22:21 AM »Morning all,
BS5266
5.2.8.5 Toilet facilities and changing rooms
Facilities for use by disabled people, and/or any multiple closet facilities without
borrowed light, should have emergency illumination from at least one
luminaire.
(changing rooms)Could it be argued that a bedroom (residential care)is the area used for changing, and should be provided with a form of em lighting.
Your thoughts?
BS5266
5.2.8.5 Toilet facilities and changing rooms
Facilities for use by disabled people, and/or any multiple closet facilities without
borrowed light, should have emergency illumination from at least one
luminaire.
(changing rooms)Could it be argued that a bedroom (residential care)is the area used for changing, and should be provided with a form of em lighting.
Your thoughts?
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Technical Advice / Re: Smoke vents in separate part of corridor
« Last post by mosh on June 21, 2023, 05:22:11 PM »Clarification for the last post - the second corridor is actually about 6m long. So the combined corridor is approx 13.5m long.
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Technical Advice / Smoke vents in separate part of corridor
« Last post by mosh on June 21, 2023, 05:17:09 PM »I have just seen an office block that is in the process of being renovated to residential flats.
The flats are within lobbied corridors, with maximum travel distance to the stairway of approx 11m. The corridor is subdivided with a fire door, so that there is a maxium of about 7.5m to the first door (and all the flats are within this part) and then an additional small corridor (approx 3.5m) leading to the (single) stairway. The AOV (natural smoke shaft) is located within this second corridor.
The question is, does it make sense to have the smoke shaft in the second-half of the corridor - so there is no smoke control in the residential part of the corridor, and will only vent smoke if the mid-corridor door is open?
Would it make more sense to remove the mid-corridor door so that the smoke has means of dispersing - but would mean that the travel distance now is 11m to a protected escape route?
Thanks
The flats are within lobbied corridors, with maximum travel distance to the stairway of approx 11m. The corridor is subdivided with a fire door, so that there is a maxium of about 7.5m to the first door (and all the flats are within this part) and then an additional small corridor (approx 3.5m) leading to the (single) stairway. The AOV (natural smoke shaft) is located within this second corridor.
The question is, does it make sense to have the smoke shaft in the second-half of the corridor - so there is no smoke control in the residential part of the corridor, and will only vent smoke if the mid-corridor door is open?
Would it make more sense to remove the mid-corridor door so that the smoke has means of dispersing - but would mean that the travel distance now is 11m to a protected escape route?
Thanks
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Technical Advice / Re: fire service intervention in evacuation of a premises
« Last post by Messy on June 13, 2023, 12:15:51 PM »You still around then?
I thought the same about you Colin when I saw your post
I would have thought you would have been elevated to the House of Lords by now, or did Boris overlook you too?
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Technical Advice / Re: fire service intervention in evacuation of a premises
« Last post by Dinnertime Dave on June 11, 2023, 09:55:58 PM »Suppers, the voice of wisdom as always. You still around then?
Still a regular visitor.
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Technical Advice / Re: fire service intervention in evacuation of a premises
« Last post by colin todd on June 11, 2023, 01:56:50 AM »Suppers, the voice of wisdom as always. You still around then?
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Technical Advice / Re: fire service intervention in evacuation of a premises
« Last post by colin todd on June 11, 2023, 01:55:28 AM »Brian, I know your school was good because it was approved, but did they really teach you latin? Your speliing is as perfect as all your previous work for your previous employer if I may be so bold as to say so.
Your speliing is as perfect as all your previous work for your previous employer if I may be so bold as to say so.60
Technical Advice / Re: Definitions
« Last post by wee brian on June 07, 2023, 12:09:10 PM »Thats good to know, what does it say?