Author Topic: assimilation for specialist ADO's (Read 66244 times)

Guest · « **Reply #45 on:** May 06, 2004, 11:16:48 PM »

Davey,
If you email me or phone the office and tell me or my pa what you are covering, how long you have to talk if there is any specific angle, or maybe the title of your talk, I can either lift an existing presentation or stiick on or two slides on a cd for you. I must resist the idea of going to Cheshire though as (according to some dozy DO in the fire service there) if, in hotels, you do not have plans on the back of bedroom doors even in straighforward corridors with escape at each end, he will have to explain to the coroner's court why all these people died. ( Personally, I think when the arguement gets to that level, it has already been lost and it is an admission that there is no valid arguement but merely a whim of a dogmatic dinosaur. So Cuba would be preferable to Cheshire.

Guest · « **Reply #46 on:** May 08, 2004, 08:48:36 AM »

thanks col. for your info it will be aimed at h&s reps to assist their employers in complying with their legal responsibility. i was hoping to make it user friendly as they will have limited experience in fire safety but are experienced h&s reps. i dont propose it to be a 'them and us' issue but more of a help to the both the employers and employees and good sensible practical ways to meet the requirements. as they are experienced h&s reps they will already be well versed in how to challenge etc but id rather the presentation be more of a way of demonstrating general and practical fire safety 'solutions' to the benefit of employers and employees working together to achieve a common objective.

see you in utopia!

dave bev

Guest · « **Reply #47 on:** May 08, 2004, 09:06:17 AM »

ok, sorry everyone for appearing to hijack thje real issue for this thread, but here is some relevant info

the rank to role issues were discussed at last weeks njc meeting and broad agreement reached, including the holding of a 'desktop' exercise to test the principles developed with five brigades being asked to assist w/c 17 may.

there will be further information released very soon, probably on the fbu web site when i can get it approved from head office

dave bev

colin todd · « **Reply #48 on:** May 08, 2004, 03:03:16 PM »

Davey, I have just dictated a note to one of the girls, setting out slides to stick on a cd for you. Where do you want it sent? You can email me with address if you want, to save space on the BB.

Guest · « **Reply #49 on:** May 08, 2004, 04:28:39 PM »

col, sorry but having trouble logging on, i will send my address if you email me at oncs@fbu-ho.org.uk

thanks

dave bev

ps home addy not given for obvious reasons

colin todd · « **Reply #50 on:** May 09, 2004, 12:14:27 AM »

Cos, MI5 might be able to find you when they round up subversives?

Guest · « **Reply #51 on:** May 10, 2004, 10:28:15 AM »

The story so far...........An unlikely tale of an FBU official (whose pals are fighting to keep their jobs) who falls in love with a wee private Fire Safety Consultant........will it all end in tears?

Stayed tuned for the next exciting episode

Guest · « **Reply #52 on:** May 10, 2004, 04:46:02 PM »

I (sniff sniff) really find it quite touching myslelf. Love the fact that Fire Safety Consultant was in caps though. Davey, Have had a system admin email saying that my email to you has been delayed, but not to re-send it again. Dont quite understand that. Has it been intecepted by MI 5? If you need this in a hurry, I suggest you ring the office and give someone the address.

Guest · « **Reply #53 on:** May 13, 2004, 01:21:06 PM »

if only i knew the right words to the song, or could even sing it!

not sure about the fighting to keep their jobs bit, though i surmise it might be a veiled attempt to raise issues of which we are very much aware.

the love triangle, assuming you wish to join and you read the thread is intended to assist other trade unionists in their workplace and at the same time delivering a fire safe community. preface to the fbu rule book may help to see where this is all leading, tears for fears?

Guest · « **Reply #54 on:** July 31, 2004, 04:12:54 PM »

ok, long awaited info as it now looks as though the light at the end of the tunnel isnt actually an express train coming straight at me!!

we had previously agreed with the employers that a trial of the much awaited rank to role process will take place prior to its introduction. there are five brigades involved - one from each of the best value groups. they will be matching their staff to the role maps using the management role map and elements to test the process. they will also be using a set of questions which the results will determine whether a person should be paid at the a or b rate within the role. i asume this will take place pretty soon after an agreement is reached (mondays njc we all hope) as it has all been agreed previously but couldnt be agreed till everything is agreed (ive heard that more times than manchester city getting beaten last season - and that was a lot - sorry mike f!!)

for those able to do so i suggest asking your fbu rep for more info, ive currently been undertaking a few visits explaining the process to officer sections, and i know the 'basic' info should be available via your ec members.

hopefully the officer national comittee website will soon go live and updates will be given on there.

ps, dont shoot me if it all goes pear shaped!

Guest · « **Reply #55 on:** August 02, 2004, 07:01:36 PM »

after today and following on from my last message i am officially in hiding from any of you with guns out there, although you really should be chasing the 'bogus fire authority' labour councillors who flooded the njc meeting. some of them have never sat on a fire authority and didnt even know each other. it was an absolute shambles and and a slur on those honest members of the njc, irrespective of whichever way they voted at least they do have an understanding of the 'fire community'

ok, rant over (for now!)

dave bev

Guest · « **Reply #56 on:** September 14, 2004, 05:40:29 PM »

ok - stop holding your breath.

looks like kick off will take place around mid october with the five selected pilot brigades starting the 'trial' - results hopefully due within a month though it wont be rushed if it aint right!

thinking of a restructure - not the right time - wait till after the trials and the guidance is released

dave bev

Guest · « **Reply #57 on:** September 16, 2004, 04:39:32 PM »

its now six brigades

l&b
t&w
warks
norfolk
devon
and now kent - first five are based on the best value groups - kent have just been added and agreed by the sub group of the njc -

oct 14th start date

Guest · « **Reply #58 on:** October 14, 2004, 12:35:35 AM »

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JamesG · « **Reply #59 on:** October 14, 2004, 07:57:45 AM »

Was that necessary?

Has it added anything useful to this debate?

Haven't you got the balls to put your name up if you are going to start throwing unexplained insults around?

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