Extinguishers banned as a fire safety hazard

[devon4ever]

They will be telling us next that flights of stairs in blocks of flats are now considered a (trip) hazard, and all flats in UK are to be re-assessed.....jeezo, when will the H&S lobby get out and smell the coffee....

[Gel]

Noticed on police TV prog last night that Humberside police had to stand by whilst a recently torched stolen car turned into fireball few minutes later.

Apparently Humberside Police have removed Extinguishers from force cars, and orders are that they wait for the professionals.

Can't help thinking that with some basic training, and right Extinguisher they could have prevented fire taking off.

Seems to be in line with their policy of not pursuing motorbikes that are driven dangerously, cars ditto where driver is seen to be underage.
It was clear the officers themselves were frustrated at all these policies.

[devon4ever]

Gel, thanks for bringing that program up, did you also notice the FF putting out the car fire without wearing BA, taking in copious amounts of toxic smoke etc...and at the risk of being criticised here, why, when turned out to a confirmed house fire, (albeit a derelict one on a similar derelict housing estate), was only 1 appliance dispatched

[jokar]

Good ol risk assessment.  Saveable life and saveable property.

[Big A]

But they are giving them out to residents as a freeby therefore it is their responsibility.

Does it follow then that we (Fire Service) are responsible for maintaining the umpteen thousand smoke detectors that we've fitted in the name of CFS?

What's the difference between us giving (and fitting) smoke detectors and Kidde giving away free fire extinguishers?

[jokar]

That question has been asked before when Cambridge were giving out detectors in the late 80's.  Met Brigades did not follow suit on the advise of legal teams as FRS had no legal duty for Community Safety.  Could be slightly different now but in reality only a test case in law would answer the "Duty of Care" question.

[Big A]

That question has been asked before when Cambridge were giving out detectors in the late 80's.  Met Brigades did not follow suit on the advise of legal teams as FRS had no legal duty for Community Safety.  Could be slightly different now but in reality only a test case in law would answer the "Duty of Care" question.

That might ruffle a few feathers.

[Big T]

I think the point is being missed when we start discussing Wardens etc, wardens will only be in a retirement scheme or a supported scheme of some descritption, these buildings would be provided with extinguishers. It is a "normal residential block" with no support needs that would not require fire extinguishers.