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AnthonyB:
You don't need a full FRA to audit if the rising mains & fire lifts, etc are being serviced.

Recommending an FRA is all very well if that and the associated general fire precautions can't be enforced - perhaps there needs to be a rethink on the legislative approach

Stobswellpond:
As you are aware, measure's for the protection of fire fighters go beyond the rising mains and firefighting lifts. Some of the FRA's have revealed that-
Yes rising mains are not being inspected or tested.
The smoke clearance system to the escape stair which is also the stair fire fighters would use to access the bridgehead and fire is not, designed, installed or maintained.
There is no clarification if the lifts are fireman's lifts or fire fighters lifts
The fire doors to the single staircase are not inspected nor maintained, and on one instance a homeowner has removed the door, the same owner who has but a big American fridge freezer directly in front of the dry riser outlet
Dampers to ductwork in the protected lobbies can be shut down by owners, and the status of the dampers are unknown (Open or Closed)

Yes a full review and holistic review of the legislation is required.

colin todd:
The Scottish Fire and Rescue Service are abundantly aware of the scope of their legislation and it would be rather silly to suggest anything to the contrary. Interestingly, without legislation relating to the common parts, it is virtually unknown for any resident of a PBBF in Scotland to die beyond the flat of fire origin. Nor do they need a new regulator to act as building control verifiers for high risk resi buildings (but then to be fair neither did England, its not like HSE have ever covered themselves with glory in enforcing fire safety legislation).

Those who exalt philosophy as a noble concept and scorn plumbing as a humble profession end up with the philosophy and plumbing they deserve-neither the pipes nor theories will hold water.

A society that under values, under pays, under resources and under trains local authority building control, for whom I have some respect, ends up with the standard of building control it deserves.  Maybe HSE could take on plumbing too.

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