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« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2008, 12:43:26 PM »
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Although Staff Alarms are generally not acceptable in relation to MCP's.

You still visiting Benedicts Colin?
Always!!!  At my age, its the only place I can still have a dance with under 30s. We are throwing a large party next Sunday for the 25th anniversary of the practice, and will be having the Untouchables from NI to provide the entertainment.
Excellent - I'll buy you you're anniversary drink next time you're in Belfast.
I still say Benedicts has the best beds I've ever slept in......!!
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« Reply #31 on: October 16, 2008, 04:19:35 PM »
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Always!!!  At my age, its the only place I can still have a dance with under 30s. We are throwing a large party next Sunday for the 25th anniversary of the practice, and will be having the Untouchables from NI to provide the entertainment.
Excellent - I'll buy you you're anniversary drink next time you're in Belfast.
I still say Benedicts has the best beds I've ever slept in......!!
You may get booking then!!

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« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2008, 07:43:45 PM »
I will be in Belfast on my birthday 6th november. Does that mean it will be a double drink? The princess has never been to NI and, as she has, with my assistance and copious amounts of alcohol, overcome her fear if flying, I am hoping to introduce her to the delights of Belfast, Alas, you could not afford her drinks bill!! The mortgage for her fear of flying drinks does not expire until I am 120.
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« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2008, 07:59:31 PM »
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The mortgage for her fear of flying drinks does not expire until I am 120.
Not long to go then.

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« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2008, 12:17:21 AM »
Kurnal, This is true. I have done my 33 years, and am wondering about retiring on a good pension and, in a form of reverse osmosis, becoming a fire-fighter. Of course, now that any Tom, Dick or Harry can be a CFO, that will be the job I will want to  start with. If I keep my nose clean, am nice to the elected members of the authority and keep in with these nice people at the CLG, I should end up in whatever the Inspectorate will have been replaced with by then, before I need to settle the mortgage on Princess' drinks bill.  Please send all CFO application forms to the address on the website.
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« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2008, 09:19:57 AM »
Thats exactly how it seems to be working for many of the top brigade managers these days. Straight into the job as an ACO and maybe if we are lucky we may make a fire fighter of them by the time they retire.

Or maybe not.

I find it quite interesting to watch the news stories showing firefighters pouring water on the outside of buildings and very well educated senior managers explaining to the news teams that the building is lost and we are in the business of containment.


It brings back to me those words by Captain Eyre Massey Shaw

A fireman to be successful, must enter buildings; He must get in below, above, on every side, from opposite houses, over brick walls, over side walls, through panels of doors, through windows, through loopholes cut by himself in the gates, the walls, the roof; he must know how to reach the attic from the basement by ladders placed on half burned stairs, and the basement from the attic by rope made fast on a chimney;

His whole success depends on his getting in and remaining there, and he must always carry his appliances with him, as without them he is of no use.


James Braidwood was one of the most successful innovators in setting up brigades in Edinburgh then London- he was a qualified bulding surveyor before making fire his career. The trouble of todays top tier entry is that whilst  it may bring in managers well skilled in all the essentials such as elf and safety, diversity, media relations, corporate affairs they may have little understanding of what needs to be done at the sharp end.


Hey sorry Chris - gone way off topic again.

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« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2008, 09:26:44 AM »
Colin

The royalties from your new book on BS 5839 part 1 should cover my drinks bill.

Princess

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« Reply #37 on: October 17, 2008, 09:31:53 AM »
Kurnal, there's nothing like a good dynamic risk assessment to keep them all outside, far too dangerous to go in and do the job properly.  Lots of water towers and jets to ensure that the basement gets flooded and they can keep those high volume pumps in work.  Whats the point in providing internal access and shafts if they do not get used, might as well make disposable buildings.

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« Reply #38 on: October 17, 2008, 09:46:21 AM »
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James Braidwood was one of the most successful innovators in setting up brigades in Edinburgh then London- he was a qualified bulding surveyor before making fire his career. The trouble of todays top tier entry is that whilst  it may bring in managers well skilled in all the essentials such as elf and safety, diversity, media relations, corporate affairs they may have little understanding of what needs to be done at the sharp end.
Prof., there a great story by Littlejohn in the Daily Mail today about how well the Fire Service's resources are being used, and how it took two firmen to make a two-step stepladder safe enough for their third colleague to use in testing a smoke detector, and even then they said they were breaking all 'elf and safety rules in doing so. You couldn't make it up!

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« Reply #39 on: October 17, 2008, 10:12:06 AM »
Working at helghts regs menas that you have to keep 3 points of contact at all times.  Can you do that when installing a smoke alarm?

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« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2008, 12:44:25 PM »
We employ a clever engineer for that called Dick

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« Reply #41 on: October 17, 2008, 01:08:54 PM »
Kurnal,

a life sized statue of James Braidwood has just been unveiled in Parliament Square, Edinburgh, opposite the City Chambers in the High Street. The statue is just around the corner from his first Fire Station (which nowadays is a museum for the Police). I suppose this really compliments the Tooley Street plaque in London which comemorates his death. Which gets us back to elf & safety mate!

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« Reply #42 on: October 17, 2008, 03:11:48 PM »
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We employ a clever engineer for that called Dick
And I guess that using Dick provides one of the three points of contact!

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« Reply #43 on: October 17, 2008, 03:14:31 PM »
What you mean like tying yourself on?

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« Reply #44 on: October 17, 2008, 08:07:14 PM »
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Colin

The royalties from your new book on BS 5839 part 1 should cover my drinks bill.

Princess
Princess, You are not allowed to plug my new book on BS 5839-1, available now from all good bookshops and a must for everyone in the fire safety profession, on these bulletin boards, as to do so would be advertising and Christopher would not be pleased, even if it is for a good cause such as your drinks bill.
Colin Todd, C S Todd & Associates