Author Topic: Loop powered door retainer  (Read 33754 times)

Offline GregC

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Re: Loop powered door retainer
« Reply #45 on: October 23, 2009, 11:29:26 AM »
Centre for young adults with learning difficulties, the doors would close when the trolleys were pushed through with the glasses and cutlery for dinner times, on some floors the gap between the bottom of the door and the floor was uneven or flexed as people walked in and out of the office causing the doors to move, we inherited these and have swapped them to hard wired.

Nursing home, the units are quite bulky and the residents were forever banging their heels or kicking the units in the corridors, these were also changed.


Just FYI I will say it mostly sounds like incorrect installing.

Trollys - The units are sound adjustable, turn them up should be end of problem or use the radio one.

Uneven floors - They supply raised floor plates now.

Kicking the units - Not much you can do about that!



I keep forgetting how long I have been in this trade, my experiences date back nearly 10 years, I shall have a look at their website to see how they have progressed  :-[

Offline David Rooney

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Re: Loop powered door retainer
« Reply #46 on: October 24, 2009, 07:09:09 PM »
We have installed the salamander kit in a few places now and have only had problems with lifts that can cause doors to close randomly - we purchased the survey kit for that....

We have also purchased the survey kit and been "trained" for dorguard X as apparently they won't sell it to just anybody....! - not sure where the " free survey" comes from mentioned earlier?

Personally I'd use the salamander over dorguard every time.
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Offline Galeon

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Re: Loop powered door retainer
« Reply #47 on: October 24, 2009, 11:02:02 PM »
Dave ,
I like the salamander kit and don't have any issues with it , however what all these companies fail to promote is all the stuff that you need to do to comply outside their remit ie derive the 240v from source ie the fire panel circuit.

There aint no solution at present , possibly until now , wait for it I am off to see my old mate Toddy to see what he thinks , and hopefully be able to have the holy blessing applied to this bit of kit I have.

I am hoping for early retirement next year , if you boys play the game and spend some filthy lucra / mazzola and stop wasting on BS updates. ;D
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Offline David Rooney

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Re: Loop powered door retainer
« Reply #48 on: October 25, 2009, 04:05:39 PM »

I think the "mains supply from one source" etc is a bit of a herring, you can power CIE etc from local dist boards so long as its written as a variation, so I don't see why you can't provide power to these types of door controllers in the same way. So ong as doors release in the event of any mains power loss then not a problem.

But if your kit does what it says on the tin then I think you will have pretty much cornered the market for the practical hardwired solution and if you need a distributor down south I may join you in early retirement....!
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