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Title: Fire Safety in Extra Care Housing in the UK
Post by: Username on November 16, 2010, 03:55:01 PM
Referred to as a "Technical Brief" this document has been released by the Department of Health via the Housing Learning and Improvement Network (Housing LIN).

http://www.dhcarenetworks.org.uk/IndependentLivingChoices/Housing/Topics/browse/Design/Planning/?parent=6595&child=8012 (http://www.dhcarenetworks.org.uk/IndependentLivingChoices/Housing/Topics/browse/Design/Planning/?parent=6595&child=8012)

Quite an interesting read, pulling all the relevant bits'n'pieces together, but does seem to dwell on timber framed construction for rather longer than one would expect.
Title: Re: Fire Safety in Extra Care Housing in the UK
Post by: jokar on November 16, 2010, 05:54:07 PM
Thank you.
Title: Re: Fire Safety in Extra Care Housing in the UK
Post by: jokar on November 16, 2010, 06:05:36 PM
Had a quick peruse and am interested as to what a Part 6 LD3 grade 3 is as noted in Section 5.0.4, perhaps a slip of the pen.
Title: Re: Fire Safety in Extra Care Housing in the UK
Post by: colin todd on November 17, 2010, 11:52:37 PM
What a very strange and quite poor document.
Title: Re: Fire Safety in Extra Care Housing in the UK
Post by: CivvyFSO on November 18, 2010, 12:01:15 AM
Seems to be far too many pages of 'guff'

('guff' is a technical term for the type of information that often makes up 95% of a risk assessment in an attempt to ensure the RP that they have got their moneys worth.)
Title: Re: Fire Safety in Extra Care Housing in the UK
Post by: wee brian on November 18, 2010, 04:14:54 PM
27 pages of a book about extra care that doesnt say anything useful about extra care. Perhaps they should get an award.
Title: Re: Fire Safety in Extra Care Housing in the UK
Post by: Midland Retty on November 18, 2010, 04:27:20 PM
The Gordon Brown award for "Moo Poo"
Title: Re: Fire Safety in Extra Care Housing in the UK
Post by: Clevelandfire 3 on November 18, 2010, 06:46:27 PM
What a very strange and quite poor document.

Look cars n the table Colin we know you are good at this fire safety malarki so tell us why this document is poor use your influence to educate otherwise you just sound like a tutting know it all
Title: Re: Fire Safety in Extra Care Housing in the UK
Post by: AnthonyB on November 18, 2010, 06:53:40 PM
It's a pity that in the statistics and case studies that make up a lot of the document (a lot of the rest being a list of where to go to get some real info) that they couldn't find any relating to extra care housing, prompting a lot of 'This has nothing to do with the sector you are reading about but...' type Intro's to the examples.

And if I manufactured closed or managed protocol fire alarm systems I'd be consulting lawyers about the statement that doesn't need too much reading between the lines to get "Don't buy nasty closed/managed protocol equipment"
Title: Re: Fire Safety in Extra Care Housing in the UK
Post by: kurnal on November 18, 2010, 11:07:57 PM
Which document are we discussing? I downloaded the link but all I get is RTP1 Good Practice note 8?
Title: Re: Fire Safety in Extra Care Housing in the UK
Post by: wee brian on November 19, 2010, 09:47:53 AM
That's odd, it appears to have gone!
Title: Re: Fire Safety in Extra Care Housing in the UK
Post by: colin todd on November 19, 2010, 06:18:04 PM
Brian, Dont forget, Google remembers all.  It does seem to have been taken off the website, but you can still get it simply from the cached version in google.

Clevey, I think that everyone else says all you need know, unless you care to spend several hours doing a detailed critique yourself.
Title: Re: Fire Safety in Extra Care Housing in the UK
Post by: wee brian on November 22, 2010, 04:46:51 PM
It's back again - spot the difference......
Title: Re: Fire Safety in Extra Care Housing in the UK
Post by: Clevelandfire 3 on November 23, 2010, 12:27:56 AM
do we get a prize?
Title: Re: Fire Safety in Extra Care Housing in the UK
Post by: Username on November 25, 2010, 09:38:40 AM
The original section 1.0.2 Example: Lakanal House has been deleted!

Also other references to Lakanal have been removed, wonder if this was for legal reasons or because it was  "neither a modern building nor an Extra Care Housing development"?
Title: Re: Fire Safety in Extra Care Housing in the UK
Post by: AnthonyB on November 25, 2010, 04:02:50 PM
It still can't quote BS5839-6 correctly and will still upset ADT, Protec, Gent, etc.......