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PRIVATE INDUSTRY => HealthCare => Topic started by: Clive on October 04, 2007, 12:04:13 PM

Title: Bariatric Evacuation
Post by: Clive on October 04, 2007, 12:04:13 PM
Does anyone have any background info, problems found, or details of solutions with regards to the evacuation of bariatric residents/ patients, which seems to be subject not often discussed, but is a growing subject that we need to have answers for ?
Title: Bariatric Evacuation
Post by: Dinnertime Dave on October 04, 2007, 01:39:21 PM
You might find something here

www.dlf.org.uk/pdf/professional/Overview%20of%20Bariatric%20Management.pdf

Otherwise, use the HM government Means of Escape Guide for Disabled People Appendix 1 'the matrix' gives some considerations for mobility impaired. all very generic can`t be anymore specific sorry.
Title: Bariatric Evacuation
Post by: Clive on October 09, 2007, 05:06:54 PM
Thanks for that DD, looks like only you and me know about the problem ???
Title: Bariatric Evacuation
Post by: wee brian on October 09, 2007, 07:15:56 PM
go on what does bariatric mean?
Title: Bariatric Evacuation
Post by: Fireguy1230 on October 09, 2007, 07:29:18 PM
Bariatric basically means the science for providing healthcare for obese people.

 It derives from the greek terms 'baros' (heavy) and 'iatrics' (medical treatment)

 Jeez, i did learn something from that lecture!!
Title: Bariatric Evacuation
Post by: wee brian on October 09, 2007, 11:03:08 PM
There you go - learn a new thing every day

I can see the problem. It gets hard to manhandle people at the best of times - if they dont fit in an evac chair thean your running out of options.

I think we need to be more honest with ourselves about res care - evacuation just dont work, its gonna have to be defend in place.
Title: Bariatric Evacuation
Post by: Clive on October 10, 2007, 08:13:04 AM
I agree and do think that 'we' do need to be honest with ourselves, but for us to be honest is one thing, but to get others to fund defend in place policies nationally is a major step.  The financial cost to provide that option is considerable.
Title: Re: Bariatric Evacuation
Post by: chris_p on November 16, 2010, 11:16:22 AM
Anyone got any updates on this subject. Bariatric patients too "baros" for evac chairs? Advice gratefully received.
Title: Re: Bariatric Evacuation
Post by: Midland Retty on November 16, 2010, 01:02:52 PM
Hi ChrisP

Apologies somehow I missed this thread when you posted it back in October !

Bariatric evacuation is a huge problem (no pun intended) and one which is becoming an increasing issue for health authorities and care providers alike.

As you know even the ambulance service have problems in this area too.

From the healthcare professionals I have spoken to it seems that evacuation sheets or matresses are currently the most practical way to evacuate very obese punters who cant fit into any other conventional evacuation aids...even for fairly non bedridden patients

The year before Last year at the Fire Expo one evac aid company did say it was looking at manufacturing larger evac chairs - alas Ive not yet seen anything of that nature on the market!

Doesn't really answer your question unfortunately.
Title: Re: Bariatric Evacuation
Post by: nearlythere on November 16, 2010, 01:12:51 PM
Does anyone have any background info, problems found, or details of solutions with regards to the evacuation of bariatric residents/ patients, which seems to be subject not often discussed, but is a growing subject that we need to have answers for ?
Clive
Have you a source for bariatric evacuation equipment?
I am involved with a company in England which has developed a bariatric evacuation mat.
Title: Re: Bariatric Evacuation
Post by: Midland Retty on November 17, 2010, 01:11:45 PM
Does anyone have any background info, problems found, or details of solutions with regards to the evacuation of bariatric residents/ patients, which seems to be subject not often discussed, but is a growing subject that we need to have answers for ?
I am involved with a company in England which has developed a bariatric evacuation mat.

Hi NT

I know we cant favour or recommend any particular company on firenet, but are you able to post a link through for the company's website? Interested in finding out a little more about this product.

Title: Re: Bariatric Evacuation
Post by: nearlythere on November 17, 2010, 05:09:52 PM
Does anyone have any background info, problems found, or details of solutions with regards to the evacuation of bariatric residents/ patients, which seems to be subject not often discussed, but is a growing subject that we need to have answers for ?
I am involved with a company in England which has developed a bariatric evacuation mat.

Hi NT

I know we cant favour or recommend any particular company on firenet, but are you able to post a link through for the company's website? Interested in finding out a little more about this product.

Sure can MR. Will email my contact to see what the current situ is with the bariatric mat and be in touch.
Title: Re: Bariatric Evacuation
Post by: colin todd on November 18, 2010, 12:07:15 AM
wee B , defend in place is a horrid term, like most things that come from America, where, incidentally defend in place has got different definitions. You would need to explain exactly what you mean by defend in place, and please please tell me you dont mean those stupid and non existent delayed evacuation bedrooms to which the even sillier CLG guide refers.
Title: Re: Bariatric Evacuation
Post by: nearlythere on November 18, 2010, 07:51:13 AM
Does anyone have any background info, problems found, or details of solutions with regards to the evacuation of bariatric residents/ patients, which seems to be subject not often discussed, but is a growing subject that we need to have answers for ?
I am involved with a company in England which has developed a bariatric evacuation mat.

Hi NT

I know we cant favour or recommend any particular company on firenet, but are you able to post a link through for the company's website? Interested in finding out a little more about this product.
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