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Offline Benzerari

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Re: Unwanted Fire Signals
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2008, 07:01:58 PM »
False alarms deserve to have a master degree level sort of research, one of our hospitals (customers) got every single day visits from fire fighters, 3 to 6 times a day for only false alarms...

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Re: Unwanted Fire Signals
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2008, 08:06:01 PM »
False alarms deserve to have a master degree level sort of research, one of our hospitals (customers) got every single day visits from fire fighters, 3 to 6 times a day for only false alarms...

Why? There must be a reason- what are they doing about it?

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Re: Unwanted Fire Signals
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2008, 08:10:12 PM »
False alarms deserve to have a master degree level sort of research, one of our hospitals (customers) got every single day visits from fire fighters, 3 to 6 times a day for only false alarms...

Why? There must be a reason- what are they doing about it?

It's all sort of reasons, what you may think about, and what you may never think...! huge site to monitor with more than 160 fire alarm systems...
« Last Edit: December 05, 2008, 08:14:10 PM by Benzerari »

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Re: Unwanted Fire Signals
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2008, 10:26:31 PM »
Maybe so benz but six times a day is 2100 times per year so would only be acceptable??? on a site with 105000 detectors

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Re: Unwanted Fire Signals
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2008, 10:34:24 PM »
Indeed, it's the same site one time a psychiatric, sets fire on his bed and real fire burnt out some of the rooms area, but none of the detectors triggered..., we have managed to cover every thing since no life lost..., but I couldn't believe false alarms happens only when none genuine fire happens...

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Re: Unwanted Fire Signals
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2008, 10:35:58 PM »
It comes back always to probability and statistics no thing sure...

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Re: Unwanted Fire Signals
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2008, 01:32:14 PM »
We have had one offender who were creating around 400 UwFs per year, not in my area thankfully. It has taken 12 months of work by fire service staff to reduce the level to 2 calls last month. it was the intention to collect evidence to prosecute (more difficult than you think) but through education and training of the occupiers on how to check the building before calling the FS it seems to have worked.     

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Re: Unwanted Fire Signals
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2008, 09:36:11 PM »
Some of the causes are really laughable ..., the site security crew changes so many times and they don't pass to each other what's what, we had a white board to sign off any system under test..., but still the white board for them is the last thing to look at, why? I don't know, I think they found it fanny to call fire brigade..., each time fire signal comes up on AMX computer…

Some other reasons…, the dentist operating in some of the floors, they used to set false alarms when using powder and teeth brushing…, but still haven’t got permission to swap SDs to HDs or Multisensors …
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Re: Unwanted Fire Signals
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2008, 10:21:44 PM »
, but still the white board for them is the last thing to look at, why? I don't know, I think they found it fanny to call fire brigade..., each time fire signal comes up on AMX computer…

clearly an unforseen consequence of equal opportunities in the fire service.