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Offline afterburner

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Re: EU Working time regualtions
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2009, 01:19:29 PM »
Stuart

you may well be onto something about the 'volunteers', this a quote from the guide to the Working Time Regulations: -

A worker is:
someone who has a contract of employment, or someone who is paid a regular salary or wage and works for an organisation, business or individual. Their employer normally provides the worker with work, controls when and how the work is done, supplies them with tools and other equipment, and pays tax and National Insurance contributions. This includes part-time and temporary workers and the majority of agency workers and freelancers.


RDS firefighters are clearly subject to a contract of employment, but what about volunteers? is there any contractural basis for their contribution to the F&RS?

the question arising as to whether RDS employees would become unpaid volunteers looks like the start of another topic for discussion!

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Re: EU Working time regualtions
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2009, 09:09:32 AM »
Scottish Lib Dems On-Line petition the keep the opt out

http://www.scotlibdems.org.uk/keeptheoptout

Also lists every fire stn in Scotland that will be affected

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Re: EU Working time regualtions
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2009, 11:21:12 AM »
Stuart

you may well be onto something about the 'volunteers', this a quote from the guide to the Working Time Regulations: -

A worker is:
someone who has a contract of employment, or someone who is paid a regular salary or wage and works for an organisation, business or individual. Their employer normally provides the worker with work, controls when and how the work is done, supplies them with tools and other equipment, and pays tax and National Insurance contributions. This includes part-time and temporary workers and the majority of agency workers and freelancers.


RDS firefighters are clearly subject to a contract of employment, but what about volunteers? is there any contractural basis for their contribution to the F&RS?

the question arising as to whether RDS employees would become unpaid volunteers looks like the start of another topic for discussion!
I can assure you that if you change the RDS to a voluntry service you may as well close the stations. There is very little community spirit since Modernisation.
We're not Brazil we're Northern Ireland.

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Re: EU Working time regualtions
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2009, 07:38:17 AM »
I fear you are right Nearly.

And without RDS crewed appliances the fire & rescue service will vanish from many areas. But the workperson is worthy of their hire, and this includes RDS firefighters.

What about Reserve Forces? Spending all their 'normal' time at work and 'other' time as part time (paid and subject to a contract) military personnel (or do the military have a tailored opt out just for this?)

Thinking of the actions being taken elsewhere as a result of European employment and contract law, hostility to this piece of legislatin may very well grow.

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Re: EU Working time regualtions
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2009, 10:55:31 AM »