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THE REGULATORY REFORM (FIRE SAFETY) ORDER 2005 => Q & A => Topic started by: jokar on October 19, 2006, 08:27:24 PM

Title: Residential Care and Healthcare Guidance
Post by: jokar on October 19, 2006, 08:27:24 PM

Can anyone tell me why in the RC Guide the Delayed Evacuation strategy gives 60 minute protection and yet in the Healthcare Guide it is 30 minutes?  Is this a typo or error or is there a proper reason such as staff numbers and guaranteed availability?  Any thoughts welcome.

Title: Residential Care and Healthcare Guidance
Post by: Richard Earl on November 25, 2006, 06:55:12 PM

hi, i have had meetings with a care home and they seam to think they need to put some protected rooms in for patients who cant be moved

but i sugested that if its a staffing issue to increase the fire alarm zone areas to smaller blocks to help with evacuation

Title: Residential Care and Healthcare Guidance
Post by: Redone on January 17, 2007, 05:42:06 PM

What is 'delayed evacuation'?

Title: Residential Care and Healthcare Guidance
Post by: jokar on January 17, 2007, 06:59:04 PM

better called defend in place or may be known as a stay put policy.  The idea is that individual patients who cannot/should not be moved are protected to a higher degree and left in situ pending the extinguisment of a fire or 2nd stage evacuation.  It needs carefule consideration and a very robust management policy.

Title: Residential Care and Healthcare Guidance
Post by: Redone on January 18, 2007, 03:17:45 PM

Cheers Jokar...

Your heading the right way Richard, but I'm beginning to doubt the effectiveness of any scheme with minimal staff to achieve an evacuation, you know, 2 staff 30 plus residents, 90% needing assistance.  No evac lift.  Residents cannot use the stairs.

But what does it matter...  never had a fire so far, risk reduced to the minimum, It'll never happen to me attitude prevails.

Title: Residential Care and Healthcare Guidance
Post by: Richard Earl on January 18, 2007, 10:16:57 PM

i agree just finished a roll out training program for a care home getting away from stay put policy to fazed evac. ie to an area behind fire doors.

i think we need to increase the zone areas to reduce the area needing evacuation