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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => General Interest => Topic started by: Hurcules on January 15, 2007, 02:02:04 PM
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The Hurcules Cup is takin place at the liverpool Olympia on May 12th. We hope to make this the Norths premier independant bodybuilding comp.
We have incorparated Mr/Miss Firefighter UK into the event. This part of the comp will be open to any member of the fire service to enter. On the evening there will be a collection through the audience and the winner will choose which charity this money goes to.
The winner of the Mr and Miss Fireman Competition will also receive £150 for winning their class.
IF you would like more details on entering or would like a poster for your station please email directly at Hurculescup@gmail.com
The website will be up and running in the next few days.
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Re: FIREMAN : Please note that such a term is no lonmger used and rather inappropriate for you to promote, especially as you are looking to have a Mr/Miss version! We use Firefighter.
Out of interest I note the 'not so clever' mispelling of Hercules for this body building competition!
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Re: FIREMAN : Please note that such a term is no lonmger used
It may not be officially but heres one for the ointment - a colleague of mine quotes that he finds the term 'fighter' aggressive in nature and does not wish to be addressed as so.
Where do we go from here - Pyrotechnician???
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Sorry to any offended we have amended the name to firefighter and will leave it as this as pyrotechnicians are people that set off fireworks for a living
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Re: FIREMAN : Please note that such a term is no lonmger used
It may not be officially but heres one for the ointment - a colleague of mine quotes that he finds the term 'fighter' aggressive in nature and does not wish to be addressed as so.
Where do we go from here - Pyrotechnician???
yes, 'Fire Supression Technician' is much more appropriate :-)
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Re: FIREMAN : Please note that such a term is no lonmger used
It may not be officially but heres one for the ointment - a colleague of mine quotes that he finds the term 'fighter' aggressive in nature and does not wish to be addressed as so.
Where do we go from here - Pyrotechnician???
tell him to get a life. Everyone is turning pc mad in this country.
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PC mad? I hardly think that suggesting that Miss Fireman is wrong being PC, if I were a female being called Miss Man would be wholly inappropriate. Also as we actually do have the role Firefighter and no such thing as Fireman, so it is not about being PC it is about being right.
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my daughter used the term fireman, can we arrange for the thought police to attend ASAP
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Depending on how old she is she may well do, but would she want to be called Miss Fireman,...........
I know plenty of kids who say Fireman - but they inevitably consider that the person they are referring to is a man.
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Pesky kids using old labour sterotypes wait until the sisters down at the ministry find out ,respect & diversety courses all round at the double!!!!
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If people ask me what I do for a living, I tell them I'm a fireman. At work my rank is Firefighter.
Firefighter is such a cheesy term. I avoid it where possible.
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But I reckon only a woman can get away with that Julie. If a man tried to describe himself as a fireman he would be accused of reinforcing the sexual stereotype.
We are all equal but some of us are perceived as being more equal than others or having been so in the past and so have less freedom of expression now.
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I'm actually a bloke - my nickname is "Julie" because my surname is "Andrews".
I refer to myself as a fireman. There's nothing sexist about that. But yes, collectively we are Firefighters.
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Well I never
Never judge a book by its title. Sometimes the cover is a better guide.
Everybody calls me colonel but I am a pacifist.
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What about,a Person who Puts out Fires,recues Cats,Fits Smoke Alarms,Rescues Trapped people,gives advice on Fire safety,Cleans the Fire Appliance.Or Fireperson.
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Plain old emergency responder?
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What about,a Person who Puts out Fires,recues Cats,Fits Smoke Alarms,Rescues Trapped people,gives advice on Fire safety,Cleans the Fire Appliance.Or Fireperson.
A job title and a job description are two different things.
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Plain old emergency responder?
I know that firefighters respond to more than just fires, but "emergency responder" seems too wide as they only respond to certain types of emergency, primiarily fires. "Emergency" could mean so much more (war, crime, ambulance work etc)
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Please stop bickering over the term fireman and firefighter, the new term as laid down by the government is neither of the above. The government believe that we no longer put out fires so the term is no longer allowed. The term fireman is sexist and firefighter is aggressive.
From now on we will all be known as " THERMAL PEACEKEEPERS "
nuff said !!!!
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I'm sorry Kaiser, your name is far too short. If the government has anything to do with it, it must be along the lines of "Fire and Emergency abatement, control and prevention technician/operative"
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Plain old emergency responder?
I know that firefighters respond to more than just fires, but "emergency responder" seems too wide as they only respond to certain types of emergency, primiarily fires. "Emergency" could mean so much more (war, crime, ambulance work etc)
Did you see the report in the paper saying that appliances fitted with CCTV cameras are being considered to spot people driving without seatbelts and using mobile phones.
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No, I didn't. I'm quite skeptical about what is printed in newspapers. Is it true?
Either way, I think my point (that the term "emergency responder" is too wide) is still valid.
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The Hurcules Cup is takin place at the liverpool Olympia on May 12th. We hope to make this the Norths premier independant bodybuilding comp.
We have incorparated Mr/Miss Firefighter UK into the event. This part of the comp will be open to any member of the fire service to enter. On the evening there will be a collection through the audience and the winner will choose which charity this money goes to.
The winner of the Mr and Miss Fireman Competition will also receive £150 for winning their class.
IF you would like more details on entering or would like a poster for your station please email directly at Hurculescup@gmail.com
The website will be up and running in the next few days.
Can we have a link to the website please?
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No, I didn't. I'm quite skeptical about what is printed in newspapers. Is it true?
Either way, I think my point (that the term "emergency responder" is too wide) is still valid.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=430259&in_page_id=1770
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The cameras could be linked to numberplate- recognition systems, which would allow fines to be issued to drivers spotted offending.
The technology could also catch people driving in bus lanes or with inappropriate child seats.
Note that the article suggests things that could happen, instead of saying that they will. My skepticism remains.
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I cant believe that people have corrected the initial poster. I am a Fireman. Pure and simple. My job title may say firefighter, but if anybody asks I'm a fireman.
When you speak to kids they always say fireman. Ive done a lot of presentations in schools and there is no point in using the word firefighter, they just don't get it.
Lets live in the real world here people!
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In the real world the term Miss Fireman seems a bit weird to me.
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I would love to start calling yarrac Mr Firewoman instead. Firefighter is the job title, the pay grade, the national occupational standard et al. So firefighter it is. Though maybe we should stick to old titles instead of all this PC stuff? So return to being a Vigiles, or fire bobby maybe?
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Official guidance has now been given as to the new title for employees of the fire and rescue services of the UK.
"It has long been recognised that the title "FIREMAN" was not acceptable in times where both males and females worked in the fire service. This led to the term "FIREFIGHTER" being the common accepted title for employees of the UK fire and rescue services. In order for the fire services to fall in line with politically correctness on a national scale, a review was done in order to ensure that the title Firefighter was still relevant and the findings were as listed below.
The term "Firefighter" would suggest that employees regularly extinguish fires, however since the introduction of smoke alarm fitting by firefighters, they no longer extinguish fires according to Mr Blair's government. Incident statistics do show that there are some events which occur where heat and smoke are present and therefore the term "Thermal" shall replace the term "Fire"
The term "Fighter" sounds aggressive and may seem thuggish to some more delicate members of society. Therefore it was deemed that another expression should be considered, several alternatives were suggested, warriors, centurians, gladiators and soldiers were just a few of a range of alternatives with "Soldier" being the favourite addition to the term Thermal, and hence the expression
"THERMAL SOLDIERS"
This suggestion was then put to Mr Blair for his approval, Tony wasn't very impressed with it, he explained that he has enough problems dealing with other issues with soldiers due to his pack of lies over the Iraq and Afghanistan affair and future issues with Thermal Soldiers and their modernisation plans may become confusing. After talks of great length, he has decided that the term "Soldiers" should be replaced with the term "Peacekeepers"
From this day forward we shall now officially be known as
"THERMAL PEACEKEEPERS"
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With the ongoing problems in the service ,does it matter if people want to be ff,fm or fwm im sure the public are more concerned about anyone turning up.Let people call themselves what they want & the thought police can move onto a more pressing subject.
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With the ongoing problems in the service ,does it matter if people want to be ff,fm or fwm im sure the public are more concerned about anyone turning up.Let people call themselves what they want & the thought police can move onto a more pressing subject.
AGREED!
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Unfortunately it is easier for the thought police to make the headlines than for the people quietly getting on with the real job.