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Title: Domestic sprinklers
Post by: JimK on January 24, 2007, 05:15:34 PM

Hello everyone.
Does anyone know if there has been a determination of a Building Regs application, where the use of sprinklers was justified in lieu of a protected  staircase in a 3-storey house or in a loft conversion?
I have studied a few determinations but they were 'Rejected'.
I have contacted Tom Sutton and he suggested I try this forum.
Several years ago I attended a seminar given by the Sprinkler Assoc. and one of the speakers said there were potential problems with the use of sprinklers when used in open plan dwellings. I don't have any more details and have already spent hours of fruitless research on this topic.
If anyone can help or at least point me in the right direction I would be very grateful.
Yours, in anticipation, Jim.

Title: Domestic sprinklers
Post by: wee brian on January 25, 2007, 08:40:57 AM

Most of the determinations were rejected because of minor problems with the spec. There is one that was given the OK. These only apply to loft conversions not new houses.

Saying that the whole thing has changed in the New AD B. There is an approach for loft conversions that includes the use of sprinklers.

Title: Domestic sprinklers
Post by: ian gough on January 25, 2007, 06:37:29 PM

Jim,

Take a look at ABE website for courses on this and BS 9251: 2005 in Feb (Cardiff), March (Northampton) & May (Preston).
www.abe.org.uk

Title: Domestic sprinklers
Post by: wee brian on January 25, 2007, 09:01:00 PM

Straying into advertising Ian! tut tut

Title: Domestic sprinklers
Post by: Pip on January 26, 2007, 01:07:44 PM

Sprinkler systems allowed at the following:
north yorks lady house front street  hinderwell private 3 storey house open staircase loft conversion  2002 allowed by building control

knowsley road southport 3 storey block of flats 2002 bregs relaxed to allow open plan design

lancaster road hornby nr lancaster 3 storey house 2003 loft conversion open plan unprotected staircase

waterstone park dartford 2002 single stairway 4 storey house

musley hill ware 3 storey house loft conversion 2002 relaxation of fire doors,s/c and protected stairs

west street hertford 3 storey loft conversion 2003 relaxation of fire doors,s/c and protected stairs

Dont have any details, but maybe the domestic sprinkler assoc can help you out.

Title: Domestic sprinklers
Post by: wee brian on January 26, 2007, 02:05:22 PM

Pip

Jim was looking for determinations.

Title: Domestic sprinklers
Post by: Pip on January 26, 2007, 02:32:55 PM

thought he might be interested in some that had been allowed, and had not gone as determinations