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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => Fire Safety => Topic started by: Redone on April 16, 2007, 12:24:06 PM

Title: Bb 100
Post by: Redone on April 16, 2007, 12:24:06 PM: When can I purchase this doc?

Thanks in advance
Title: Bb 100
Post by: CivvyFSO on April 16, 2007, 12:32:26 PM: Purchase it? ...

http://www.dfes.gov.uk/consultations/downloadableDocs/BB100%20July%2005%20-%20Complete.pdf

:)
Title: Bb 100
Post by: kurnal on April 16, 2007, 12:33:04 PM: I believe its still in draft- if you email me I will let you have a copy of the draft copy I have but I dont know if it is the latest version.
Title: Bb 100
Post by: kurnal on April 16, 2007, 12:34:09 PM: Thanks Civvyfso- you beat me to it.
Didnt know there was a version on the web.
Title: Bb 100
Post by: CivvyFSO on April 16, 2007, 12:39:55 PM: Not sure if it is going to be updated, by what you say there may be a newer version coming out. The supplied link mentioned Workplace Regs etc, so I would imagine the updated one will take into account RRFSO.
Title: Bb 100
Post by: Redone on April 16, 2007, 12:40:17 PM: Thanks very much folks.
Title: Bb 100
Post by: saddlers on April 16, 2007, 01:44:48 PM: The new BB100 was supposed to be released to coincide with Approved Document B 2006 taking effect, but this has not happened to date. I have heard through the grapevine that it is likely to be well into May before it is released. If you are dealing with a building regs application, bear in mind the transitional provisions, which can be used to allow the previous version of Approved Document B to be adopted as an alternative solution until such time as BB100 is officially released.

Lets hope they dramatically improve on the draft, in my eyes it was "pants"
Title: Bb 100
Post by: Redone on April 16, 2007, 02:00:58 PM: I was interested in the compartmentation advice it may contain, tad better than BB7...
Title: Bb 100
Post by: CivvyFSO on April 16, 2007, 03:18:13 PM: Quote from: saddlers
"pants"
I wish people would stop using these technical terms.
Title: Bb 100
Post by: saddlers on April 16, 2007, 03:45:07 PM: Apologies, it seemed to sum up my opinion at the time!!

Perhaps "in my opinion this document is both poorly laid out and prepared, and in addition does not seem to provide the technical expertise or information on relevant design considerations/issues one expects from this type of guidance" would have been more appropriate
Title: Bb 100
Post by: CivvyFSO on April 16, 2007, 04:20:27 PM: In hindsight 'pants' is fine.

I shall personally campaign for this term to be integral in all areas of fire safety.

"Your alarm is not sufficient as it does not give sufficient warning due to the lack of detection in important areas."
"Your alarm is pants."

"This door is not FR30 and does not protect the staircase as would be necessary according to supplied guidance."
"This door is pants."

"This online risk assessment is not really suitable and sufficient. It does not go into enough detail considering the particular hazards present in this workplace."
"This online risk assessment is pants."

It would work for all areas of fire safety and would clearly save valuable printer ink, thus helping the environment and combatting global warming at the same time. I think you have stumbled onto something here.
Title: Bb 100
Post by: kurnal on April 16, 2007, 04:46:09 PM: You will have to overcome a big hurdle to get ISO approval.

My y fronts are pants. But in the US trousers are pants.
Title: Bb 100
Post by: Mike Buckley on April 17, 2007, 08:57:54 AM: Perhaps saddler has the start of a new system in line with all the other state codes now creeping in. Just think of everything in a numberical code. Means of escape state 1 meaning your means of escape are brilliant down to state 5 if you value your life be somewhere else. Just think of the time and money that can be saved!
Title: Bb 100
Post by: wee brian on April 17, 2007, 02:27:08 PM: sounds a bit pants to me
Title: Bb 100
Post by: fred on April 18, 2007, 01:18:54 PM: is that pants1 or pants5 ?
Title: Bb 100
Post by: wee brian on April 18, 2007, 01:35:55 PM: Niether - a UK XXXL Pants
Title: Bb 100
Post by: afterburner on April 18, 2007, 03:17:31 PM: P = perhaps
A = acceptable
N = not
T = too
S = sure

yes your propsals are PANTS
Title: Bb 100
Post by: CivvyFSO on April 18, 2007, 03:50:26 PM: 1 = good
5 = pants
Title: Bb 100
Post by: saddlers on April 24, 2007, 04:14:32 PM: I think I will have to change my user name to "pants" the way this has taken off (no pun intended!!)