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Title: Hse Enforcers Guidance For The Rr(fs)o
Post by: firelawmac on June 04, 2007, 10:50:00 PM

Has anyone else seen this document? In my opinion this is well overdue yet an extremely good document, does anyone know if the fabled enforcers guide for local authority FRS is similar and god forbid written in consultation with the HSE? (or is that wishfull thinking), Oh and when will it be available to the public?

Title: Hse Enforcers Guidance For The Rr(fs)o
Post by: wee brian on June 05, 2007, 02:35:44 PM

You've got us all excited now. what HSE guide is taht then?

Title: Hse Enforcers Guidance For The Rr(fs)o
Post by: greg on June 05, 2007, 04:55:02 PM

Where do you get it from? Just been on hse website and there is nothing there about it!

Title: Hse Enforcers Guidance For The Rr(fs)o
Post by: Martin Burford on June 05, 2007, 05:28:26 PM

greg
I have done the same,,,its not on the HSE site.....try Communities site....I wasgiven an address by the HSE but it just draws a blank......anybody else any ideas ?
Conqueror

Title: Hse Enforcers Guidance For The Rr(fs)o
Post by: val on June 05, 2007, 06:47:45 PM

firelawmac may be talking about an agreement between HSE and CFOA. I don't think it is formally available yet and although it does have a lot of good stuff, it needs more work.
I don't think it contradicts, (at least not obviously) anything in the enforcers guide which is finally due for publication at the end of June. (But don't hold your breath)!

Title: Hse Enforcers Guidance For The Rr(fs)o
Post by: jokar on June 05, 2007, 06:51:48 PM

The latest draft for the enforcers guide is dated March 2007 and came out a month or so ago.  It is, subject to the legal eagles of CLG, the definitive document.  Better than the first 2 attempts but still may lack some information dependent on your viewpoint.  Currently it is restricted access only as far as I am aware.

Title: Hse Enforcers Guidance For The Rr(fs)o
Post by: firelawmac on June 05, 2007, 06:58:55 PM

Sorry guys, I will find you link for it! It isnt the CFOA/HSE agreement,it is a enforcers guide!! i found it by accident in a google search, leave it with me ill try find a link to post on here!!

Title: Hse Enforcers Guidance For The Rr(fs)o
Post by: firelawmac on June 05, 2007, 10:13:47 PM

www.hse.gov.uk/foi/internalops/fod/oc/200-299/217_5.pdf  

See if that link works! it is an Operational Circular number OC 217/05 anyone in the know, please let me know if in anyway resembles the LA Enforcers guide.

Thanks

Title: Hse Enforcers Guidance For The Rr(fs)o
Post by: CivvyFSO on June 06, 2007, 09:31:50 AM

Thanks.

Interesting stuff. Found a problem in it..

"Article 18 (8) states that where there is a competent person in the responsible person's employment, that person must be appointed in preference to a competent person in his employment."

Ha?

Somebody needs a proof reader. :)

Title: Hse Enforcers Guidance For The Rr(fs)o
Post by: firelawmac on June 06, 2007, 02:37:32 PM

Well spotted,

HA HA =D