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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => Fire Safety => Topic started by: GB on June 20, 2007, 09:58:27 AM

Title: Self Closers
Post by: GB on June 20, 2007, 09:58:27 AM

Can someone point me to the part of ADB that suggests that self closers on internal fire doors are no longer required?

In addition a BCO intimated recently that this is allowable when increased AFD is applied to habitable rooms where the closers are removed. Again can someone point me in the direction of that reference as the BCO couldn't!.

Title: Self Closers
Post by: jayjay on June 20, 2007, 12:44:43 PM

You need ADB 2007 Volume 1 Dwelling Houses,  Closers are still required to an integral garage

The document can be downloaded from the Communities web site

Title: Self Closers
Post by: GB on June 20, 2007, 12:57:42 PM

Thanks Jay Jay, do you know which section?

Title: Self Closers
Post by: jayjay on June 21, 2007, 12:38:02 PM

This link should take you to the download page for all of the approoved documents.

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/england/professionals/en/1115314110382.html

Title: Self Closers
Post by: saddlers on June 21, 2007, 02:02:18 PM

Appendix B of ADB Volume 2 - Gives gudiance on fire doors within flats, paragraph 2 is the guidance you require!!!

Title: Self Closers
Post by: wee brian on June 21, 2007, 10:34:00 PM

I think he may be looking for where it says you dont need them. Of course it doesnt do that anywhere (other than in the inside cover where it highlights changes). What it does say is where you do need them.

It doesnt tell you where you dont need banana flavour door handles either!

Title: Self Closers
Post by: saddlers on June 22, 2007, 10:16:02 AM

Quote from: wee brian

I think he may be looking for where it says you dont need them. Of course it doesnt do that anywhere (other than in the inside cover where it highlights changes). What it does say is where you do need them.

It doesnt tell you where you dont need banana flavour door handles either!

Wee Brian,
In appendix B para 2 is does state that internal self closers within flats are no longer required!! You may want to have a look.

Title: Self Closers
Post by: wee brian on June 24, 2007, 10:25:21 PM

Yeah - Its Vol 1 that doesnt say you dont need them.

You get an extra brownie point.