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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => Fire Safety => Topic started by: Sherpa on June 30, 2007, 11:30:53 AM

Title: Smoking Ban
Post by: Sherpa on June 30, 2007, 11:30:53 AM

I wonder how many pubs,clubs and other buildings that previously allowed smoking, will be reviewing their fire risk assesments on Sunday. Chances are, they'll have heat detectors installed to prevent the false alarms caused by cigerette smoke, which really should now be changed to smoke detectors.

Title: Smoking Ban
Post by: John Webb on June 30, 2007, 12:00:29 PM

That's a good point, but I expect it will take a long time to sink in. Will trade journals mention it for starters?

Title: Smoking Ban
Post by: AM on June 30, 2007, 04:47:45 PM

And how many who have installed patio heaters will have included the propane cylinders in their assessments - spares are just going to be dumped in the cellars.

Title: Smoking Ban
Post by: wee brian on July 01, 2007, 09:52:15 AM

If they needed smoke alarms they would have had them already. The fire risk has reduced so why up the anti?

Title: Smoking Ban
Post by: Allen Higginson on July 09, 2007, 01:43:29 PM

Quote from: wee brian

If they needed smoke alarms they would have had them already. The fire risk has reduced so why up the anti?

Agree in principal but taking into account possible malicious fires then changing to smokes would be worth considering (that is,taking into account that the system is monitored in the first instance !).

Title: Smoking Ban
Post by: messy on July 09, 2007, 04:01:42 PM

I notice that the Building Research Establishment have introduced a new smoking policy at their sprawling site in Garston, Watford to coincide with the introduction of the no smoking regs.

Obviously there's no smoking in buildings and the BRE have also given details as to where you can smoke in the grounds- ie away from buildings. All sensible stuff so far.

However I was intrigued and somewhat surprised to see that part of the new policy states that no ashtrays will be located anywhere on site and it is the responsibility of the smoker to dispose of smoking related litter. The policy also details that dropping cigarettes will be a discipline offence.

As one of the most respected authorities in the fire risk business within the UK, I am amazed that they seem to have failed to control the risk posed by smokers having nowhere to dump their (potential ignition source) litter, other than numerous general waste bins - many close to buildings- throughout the site.

Views???

Title: Smoking Ban
Post by: Mr. P on July 11, 2007, 12:10:31 PM

That is worthy of being posted on the friday joke slot!  It is a suddenly common scenario, that's the trouble.  Too many employers dong the right thing per se, but missing off probably the most important thing which if not dealt with sensibly and realistically will lead to many fires due to hurriedly discarded butts from sneak smoking sessions.