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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => Fire Safety => Topic started by: Chris Houston on September 24, 2007, 11:09:16 PM

Title: Emergency Lighting - full discharge tests
Post by: Chris Houston on September 24, 2007, 11:09:16 PM
How might one do the above in a building that is constantly occupied?
Title: Emergency Lighting - full discharge tests
Post by: Graeme on September 25, 2007, 07:33:33 AM
it's okay if the building has lots of natural light but in most cases i always get moaned at because the toilets are in darkness.
or do you mean should the building not be occupied until the fittings are recharged?
Title: Emergency Lighting - full discharge tests
Post by: kurnal on September 25, 2007, 07:58:23 AM
I suppose

Test switches should prevent disruption- but many places don.t have these

Timing-time the exercise to maximise the potential use of borrowed natural light coupled with minimum numbers of persons at risk

Temporary lighting for any areas without test switches and without borrowed light.

By testing early morning the recharge cycle should be ok well before  tea time to sustain the lights for as long as it really takes to evacuate the building- probably 30minutes is the maximum realistic duration for fire safety. 3 hours is a very large safety margin of around probably 6 times the required duration for fire safety.

I think the safety margin is so wide because of the potential delay charging up after a power cut, and so that as batteries start to deteriorate there is always a good margin in reserve.
Title: Emergency Lighting - full discharge tests
Post by: Chris Houston on September 25, 2007, 08:51:22 AM
These buildings have NO natural light.
Title: Emergency Lighting - full discharge tests
Post by: kurnal on September 25, 2007, 08:54:24 AM
Dont they ever close down? If not, then you need to install test switches or temporary lighting.
Title: Emergency Lighting - full discharge tests
Post by: Graeme on September 25, 2007, 05:19:33 PM
Quote from: kurnal
I suppose


I think the safety margin is so wide because of the potential delay charging up after a power cut, and so that as batteries start to deteriorate there is always a good margin in reserve.
is the 3hr duration not meant for hotels etc so if there was a power cut then people would not have to be asked to leave unless the power cut was lengthy?

office etc need much less but every fitting i come across are all 3hr as standard.

edit for missed out word -G
Title: Emergency Lighting - full discharge tests
Post by: kurnal on September 25, 2007, 05:27:05 PM
Yes thats a good point Graeme, in fact at the back of my mind theres something about 3 hours for sleeping risks and 2 hours and even one hour elsewhere from an old code of practice- if I get time I will look it out.
Title: Emergency Lighting - full discharge tests
Post by: jokar on September 25, 2007, 07:20:14 PM
Parts 7 and 8 provide information but TM 12 although technically out of date gives a table, table 12, that identifies premises against time.
Title: Emergency Lighting - full discharge tests
Post by: AnthonyB on September 25, 2007, 11:10:02 PM
Although the old 1/2/3 hour tables are a bit superfluous as they don't reflect the fact that virtually all E/L fittings are made with 3 hour cells (presumably it's easier & cheaper than having the various types)

If starting afresh, self monitoring/testing systems would suit, but if its an existing system in a premises reliant on artificial light it's difficult.