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Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: PhilB on October 25, 2007, 10:26:13 AM
A duck , a cow and an horse walk into a hotel......and up the stairs apparently.

The horse, called Eric looks through the vision panel and sees the duck and cow deep in conversation.

Luckily there is a 500mm gap between the partition and the ceiling so the horse can hear the conversation.

"Don't you worry about this mad cow's disease?" asks the Duck.

"It doesn't affect me, cos Im a teapot" says the cow.

"Really?" says the Duck......" that's a stroke of luck perhaps you could help me write the new CLG Guide for Ponds & Rock Pools, I hear they pay well"
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: nearlythere on October 25, 2007, 10:54:49 AM
A horse, or was it a cow, goes to Paris for the weekend and stays on the 6th floor of a hotel. He decides to go out for the evening and has a shower. When he comes out he reaches into his bag for his antiperspirant and discovers he forgot to pack it. Deciding he could not possibly go out smelling like a pig he gallops down the stairs, out into the street and bolts into the nearest chemist.
He asks the man behind the counter for some antiperspirant.
The man says "Certainment Monseur, Le Ball ou le Aerosol"?
"Have you any for under the arms"? replied the horse.
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: BB on October 25, 2007, 11:12:40 AM
Must say this P.C. brigade is going mad they are now having to cater (or is it canter) for the needs of animals.carpeting the staircases See Page 28, figure 6 new guidance.

Looking to give our guys some training on the new guides looking for a suitable venue to have an awHAY day!!!!!
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: PhilB on October 25, 2007, 06:10:11 PM
I expect the horses were staying in the bridle-suite?
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: jokar on October 25, 2007, 07:36:37 PM
I came home this evening and had to eat my dinner off of the floor in the bedroom.  When I asked why I could not eat where we used to my wife said she had read the new guide and the s table was in a bedroom.
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: kurnal on October 25, 2007, 07:46:57 PM
A foursome was on the last hole and when the last golfer drove off the tee he hooked into a cow pasture. He advised his friends to play through and he would meet them at the clubhouse. They followed the plan and waited for their friend.

After a considerable time he appeared disheveled, bloody, and badly beaten up. They all wanted to know what happened.

He explained that he went over to the cow pasture but could not find his ball. He noticed a cow wringing her tail in obvious pain. He went over and lifted her tail and saw a golf ball solidly embedded. It was a yellow ball so he knew it was not his.

A woman comes out of the bushes apparently searching for her lost golf ball. The helpful male golfer lifted the cow's tail and asked, "Does this look like yours?"

That was the last thing he could remember.
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: BB on October 25, 2007, 11:15:17 PM
Quote from: jokar
I came home this evening and had to eat my dinner off of the floor in the bedroom.  When I asked why I could not eat where we used to my wife said she had read the new guide and the s table was in a bedroom.
what did you say jokar nah problem or was your voice alittle hoarse!!!
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: PhilB on October 26, 2007, 10:35:19 AM
A man walks into a hotel bedroom with a sheep under his arm and says "this is the pig I have to make love with when you've got a headache!

His wife says " I think you'll find that's a sheep!"

The man says " I think you'll find I was talking to the sheep!"
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: Martin Burford on October 26, 2007, 12:12:00 PM
PhilB
you heard that joke on Talk Sport!!
Conqueror
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: PhilB on October 26, 2007, 12:42:58 PM
No it's much older than that!!
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: martyn brandrick on October 26, 2007, 12:46:11 PM
stew broons influence is already apparent and he not back a month.
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: MrH on October 26, 2007, 01:36:41 PM
please view figure 22 inner rooms
                             27 dead ends

somebody has then decided you must diversify view figure 32
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: PhilB on October 26, 2007, 02:05:50 PM
Quote from: partymarty283
stew broons influence is already apparent and he not back a month.
No Marty wacky as this is its nothing to do with Stu.....have you seen the guide yet?
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: martyn brandrick on October 30, 2007, 10:14:41 AM
I have just had a look, I knew it was going wrong with the offices guide but this is brilliant.  I love it well done BRE for bringing the smile back to Fire safety :-)
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: saddlers on October 30, 2007, 12:39:41 PM
I like this statement best - "All doors should preferably open in the direction of escape and must do so if more
than 60 people or 20 horses use them" is this not discriminating against cows and sheep? Are the cows and sheep too stupid to use the escape route..... what am I saying how does the horse know to use the escape route!!
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: Dinnertime Dave on October 30, 2007, 01:32:48 PM
I`ve just received my copy via pony express, it occured to me that travel distances in stables should be extended to take into account that horses sleep with their shoes on.
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: Mike Buckley on October 30, 2007, 04:19:51 PM
Just waiting for new signage walking horse on green background etc. Or will we have to wait for an in depth study to determine what signs are best understood by animals?
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: jokar on October 30, 2007, 07:25:12 PM
I am led to believe that dogs only see in black and white, is this the same for other animals?  If so then the ISO standard hammered home to us all recently will have to change to accommodate this.
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: Nearlybaldandgrey on October 30, 2007, 08:13:29 PM
Oh my goodness!

Whatever next?

Anyway, must get back to the hamster cage assessment .............
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: AndyJ on October 30, 2007, 10:58:04 PM
I bolted - so I take no blame for the recommendation for the closed stable door to be 30 min FR in dead end conditions. Equally I know that cows can't walk down stairs! Hey ho! =D
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: slubberdegullion on November 01, 2007, 01:55:02 PM
I see that we have new signs to go with document

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o128/slubberdegullion2/horsesign.gif)
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: Mike Buckley on November 01, 2007, 04:55:45 PM
Yes nice sign but shouldn't the sign be encouraging the horse to walk and not gallop? Whilst I can see the logic of this sign in a riding establishment surely there is a need for signs for other animal species cows sheep chickens etc.

We need guidance!!! Is a horse acceptable as a generic animal? Definitely this is a decision that requires a parlimentary debate! or a least a ministerial statement!
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: Tom Sutton on November 01, 2007, 07:28:04 PM
With all the discussions on exit signs why are you using the euro sign change it for the BS or ISO sign immediately.
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: messy on November 01, 2007, 08:21:19 PM
Just hang a carrot over the door
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: Big A on November 02, 2007, 09:28:00 AM
Quote from: messy
Just hang a carrot over the door
It would have to be linked to the AFD so that it (the carrot) would only be in position in the event of fire. If it was hanging over the door all the time, the horse may leave the stable before the fire and that would never do.

:)=)
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: Mr. P on November 02, 2007, 09:31:52 AM
Or, by nibbling at the carrot there would be numerous false alarms. "anymore false alarms, and you'll be horse meat"  - good deterant
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: slubberdegullion on November 02, 2007, 02:01:11 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o128/slubberdegullion2/fireaction.gif)
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: PhilB on November 02, 2007, 02:09:37 PM
I don't know who started this thread but you chaps are just not taking this seriously!!!!!....Anyway a polar bear walks into a hotel bar and says I'll have a gin....................................................... &........................................................................................................tonic please.

and the barman says "why the big paws?"
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: jokar on November 02, 2007, 06:58:11 PM
I have been thinking about the people next door, she has a strange voice, I think she is a little hoarse.  A pony you say, I wouldn't pay her fifty quid   As they are "neigh" bours do you think that the guide applies to their premises.  I think I may have to moooove if they find this post.
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: Nearlybaldandgrey on November 04, 2007, 07:42:51 PM
Oh my goodness ..... it really has gone downhill!!
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: Big A on November 05, 2007, 11:27:25 AM
Quote from: Baldyman
Oh my goodness ..... it really has gone downhill!!
Gone to the dogs.
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: slubberdegullion on November 05, 2007, 12:45:47 PM
My dog resents that remark.

Holy Cow, this is a pig's ear of a discussion.  We need some stable-ity, all of us, barnone

Stu
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: Nearlybaldandgrey on November 05, 2007, 07:51:35 PM
Quote from: slubberdegullion
My dog resents that remark.
Well saying gone to the cats doesn't quite sound right.
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: Mr. P on November 06, 2007, 07:47:23 AM
Quote from: slubberdegullion
My dog resents that remark.

Holy Cow, this is a pig's ear of a discussion.  We need some stable-ity, all of us, barnone

Stu
Where's this bar you can't get barred in then?
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: Dragonmaster on November 06, 2007, 11:32:55 AM
At last - self-closing stable doors. We've been after them for years!
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: Nearlybaldandgrey on November 06, 2007, 05:30:46 PM
Are they self closing linked to the fire alarm or are the horses expected to open them first?

I'll bet you'd find some wedges!
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: PhilB on November 06, 2007, 05:40:33 PM
Quote from: Dragonmaster
At last - self-closing stable doors. We've been after them for years!
That's got to win first prize!! Well done old boy!
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: Neil G on November 12, 2007, 12:12:02 AM
Quote from: Dragonmaster
At last - self-closing stable doors. We've been after them for years!
Help please! Do self closing stable doors have to be bolted?
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: Mike Buckley on November 12, 2007, 09:12:42 AM
Only after the horse has.
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: Steven N on November 16, 2007, 12:56:55 PM
They have spoilt the fun & removed the BULLOCKS etc from the pictures-no its true!, Wonder how they did get them down the stairs? Not that any one would have an electronic copy of course to remind themselves about such a wonderous publication
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: Davo on November 16, 2007, 01:38:51 PM
Yes ladies and gents, its true!
They removed all the animals on wednesday, perhaps after lots of crittercism from this forum
Maybe one of you out there is a mole???
At least we were kept amoosed for a while.
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: nearlythere on November 16, 2007, 02:59:59 PM
What do you mean they removed all the animals?
Has the guide been pulled?
Did the animals jump or were they pushed?
Do they now realise that it was it all a load of bull?
Was it really just a pigs ear of a document?
What do you get when you cross a kangaroo with a sheep?
What goes 99 bump, 99 bump, 99 bump?
What do you get if you have a brown ball in each hand?
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: Davo on November 16, 2007, 03:30:08 PM
Complete control of Lennox  Lewis?
The guide is still there, its just animal-less
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: nearlythere on November 16, 2007, 04:25:40 PM
Quote from: Davo
Complete control of Lennox  Lewis?
The guide is still there, its just animal-less
Can't quite gets this. You mean we have to now use the Sleeping Accommodation guide for stables?
What ever happened to the animals and stables guide? I thought it was a great comic.
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: jokar on November 16, 2007, 09:13:52 PM
Some of us have an electronic copy, now kept ofr posterity or is that posterior use.
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: jokar on November 16, 2007, 09:19:31 PM
I have just checked and it is true, the animals have gone, perhaps they have bolted.  Issued without announcement, removed without announcement.  Is it 1984, the authors name was the same as the last PM so perhaps its true.
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: kurnal on November 16, 2007, 09:33:26 PM
Proves the means of escape was ok then after all.
Expect they will change the law now the horse has gone.
I thought 1984- and animal farm- were by George Orwell?
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: devon4ever on November 17, 2007, 03:20:00 AM
....and lets not forget the advice within guidance that says the provision of a fire alarm sounder may have an adverse affect on animals and cause them to panic - call me old fashioned but guess what fire and smoke in a stable does!!!  ooh arrr!
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: Tom Sutton on November 17, 2007, 10:53:38 AM
You have been suckered Kurnal his name was Eric Arthur Blair, George Orwell was his pen name.
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: kurnal on November 17, 2007, 11:12:00 AM
Hook line and sinker TW
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: nearlythere on November 29, 2007, 05:02:37 PM
Sorry to have to bring up the Dobbin and Bessie comic again but came across a little problem. Para 2 of 2.2 Manual Call Points says "Break-glass call points are not recommended for buildings containing animals; frangible call points should be used in all areas where animals are likely to be present".
Am I stupid (likely) or maybe it is the lateness of the day, but am I looking at a contradiction?

Can someone point me in the direction of something I can't see?
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: slubberdegullion on November 29, 2007, 08:18:28 PM
Possibly being equally stupid here but is it making a distinction between call points that actually have glass in them and those that have a scored piece of plastic which merely snaps and folds slightly when pressed?  I guess animals and broken glass don't mix.  Maybe.

Stu
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: AnthonyB on November 30, 2007, 12:50:20 AM
It is poorly described as a break glass call point is by it's very nature frangible.

I would agree they mean to refer to 'resettable' call points with a non glass element.

However, for nearly 30 years 'new', glass based call points have been laminated & scored glass that doesn't fracture - thats why they can be thumb operated (KAC being the main example).

Whoever wrote this is still in the old days of the old Gent & AFA Minerva call points with sheets of normal glass in them and a hammer & chain - I know  a lot are still around (mostly without the hammers as they were stolen years ago) though
Title: Animal Premises and Stables
Post by: nearlythere on November 30, 2007, 08:53:07 AM
I'm the sort who likes to have a reason for anything I ask for. If I inserted that paragraph into a report and they came back asking me to clarify it, I couldn't.
I go with the dangers of broken glass and animals. Would have thought that broken glass could be dangerous to humans too.