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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => Technical Advice => Topic started by: Davro on February 13, 2008, 09:01:58 PM

Title: No Engineers Code For A Advanced Panel
Post by: Davro on February 13, 2008, 09:01:58 PM
I Have Just Started To Service A Brand New Fire Alarm System (advanced Panel) Which Was Installed By A Electrical Company Then Commissioned By A Fire Alarm Company Who Changed The Commissioning Code??? I Know For A Fact That They Do This To All Their Systems But The Company Who I Do The Work For Is Having A New Building Attached To This Building And Would Like The Fire System To Be Extended Into This One. Have Got No Problems With Other People Doing The Work But If Any Extras Need Doing How Can I Commission It Without The Code. Does Anybody Know How To Get Around This Or Should I Contact Advacnce Themselves.
Title: No Engineers Code For A Advanced Panel
Post by: JonnyG on February 13, 2008, 11:01:39 PM
I would contact either the company that commissioned the system or Advance themselves.
Title: No Engineers Code For A Advanced Panel
Post by: Benzerari on February 13, 2008, 11:11:35 PM
Quote from: Davro
I Have Just Started To Service A Brand New Fire Alarm System (advanced Panel) Which Was Installed By A Electrical Company Then Commissioned By A Fire Alarm Company Who Changed The Commissioning Code??? I Know For A Fact That They Do This To All Their Systems But The Company Who I Do The Work For Is Having A New Building Attached To This Building And Would Like The Fire System To Be Extended Into This One. Have Got No Problems With Other People Doing The Work But If Any Extras Need Doing How Can I Commission It Without The Code. Does Anybody Know How To Get Around This Or Should I Contact Advacnce Themselves.
I had been in similar situation one day when asked advanced technical support they said you need to contact the commissioning company was in charge…., they have to supply the code or at least re-instate the system to its default code...

Advanced electronics Ltd can do it, but I do not think it can be free because they have to flash the memory completely and reprogram the system with the default manufacturer settings... then you have to re-commission it from the beginning…

The best way is, if the tenant contact the commissioning company who was in charge, and ask them the code. It’s their right to know the code as they had paid for...
Title: No Engineers Code For A Advanced Panel
Post by: Buggy on February 14, 2008, 06:01:15 PM
There is a way of changing a modified level 3 password, it requires you to have the serial number and date of manufacture (from the main processor) inside the panel and getting a code from Advanced Tech Suppot.

Refer to the commissioning manual for further details.
Title: No Engineers Code For A Advanced Panel
Post by: Graeme on February 14, 2008, 08:34:52 PM
when you try to enter commission mode enter 1 as the code.
It when then come back as code unknown.
press 0 and enter and it will give you an 8 digit code.

You need to call Advanced with this code and if the company has not registered it with them then Advanced should give you another 8 digit code that will get you into level 3.

Failing that and it is registered then you will have to get the previous company out to default the engineer code.
Title: No Engineers Code For A Advanced Panel
Post by: Stevie1961 on June 26, 2008, 06:36:47 PM
10000 usually works as this is the default code
Title: No Engineers Code For A Advanced Panel
Post by: Allen Higginson on June 27, 2008, 12:01:03 AM
Quote from: Graeme
when you try to enter commission mode enter 1 as the code.
It when then come back as code unknown.
press 0 and enter and it will give you an 8 digit code.

You need to call Advanced with this code and if the company has not registered it with them then Advanced should give you another 8 digit code that will get you into level 3.

Failing that and it is registered then you will have to get the previous company out to default the engineer code.
I concurr with the above.
Title: No Engineers Code For A Advanced Panel
Post by: Marcos Figaro on July 01, 2008, 12:19:51 AM
Quote from: Davro
I Have Just Started To Service A Brand New Fire Alarm System (advanced Panel) Which Was Installed By A Electrical Company Then Commissioned By A Fire Alarm Company Who Changed The Commissioning Code??? I Know For A Fact That They Do This To All Their Systems But The Company Who I Do The Work For Is Having A New Building Attached To This Building And Would Like The Fire System To Be Extended Into This One. Have Got No Problems With Other People Doing The Work But If Any Extras Need Doing How Can I Commission It Without The Code. Does Anybody Know How To Get Around This Or Should I Contact Advacnce Themselves.
Why 7654 doesn't work ?
Title: No Engineers Code For A Advanced Panel
Post by: Graeme on July 01, 2008, 06:02:48 PM
Quote from: Marcos Figaro
Quote from: Davro
I Have Just Started To Service A Brand New Fire Alarm System (advanced Panel) Which Was Installed By A Electrical Company Then Commissioned By A Fire Alarm Company Who Changed The Commissioning Code??? I Know For A Fact That They Do This To All Their Systems But The Company Who I Do The Work For Is Having A New Building Attached To This Building And Would Like The Fire System To Be Extended Into This One. Have Got No Problems With Other People Doing The Work But If Any Extras Need Doing How Can I Commission It Without The Code. Does Anybody Know How To Get Around This Or Should I Contact Advacnce Themselves.
Why 7654 doesn't work ?
because as mentioned it has been changed...
Title: No Engineers Code For A Advanced Panel
Post by: Marcos Figaro on July 01, 2008, 09:06:46 PM
Quote from: Graeme
Quote from: Marcos Figaro
Quote from: Davro
I Have Just Started To Service A Brand New Fire Alarm System (advanced Panel) Which Was Installed By A Electrical Company Then Commissioned By A Fire Alarm Company Who Changed The Commissioning Code??? I Know For A Fact That They Do This To All Their Systems But The Company Who I Do The Work For Is Having A New Building Attached To This Building And Would Like The Fire System To Be Extended Into This One. Have Got No Problems With Other People Doing The Work But If Any Extras Need Doing How Can I Commission It Without The Code. Does Anybody Know How To Get Around This Or Should I Contact Advacnce Themselves.
Why 7654 doesn't work ?
because as mentioned it has been changed...
Right, normaly removing the lithium battery for few seconds would delete all settings including the secret password, but do not do it, if you are not sure how to set all the rest back to normal :)
Title: No Engineers Code For A Advanced Panel
Post by: Allen Higginson on July 01, 2008, 11:58:42 PM
Quote from: Marcos Figaro
Quote from: Graeme
Quote from: Marcos Figaro
Why 7654 doesn't work ?
because as mentioned it has been changed...
Right, normaly removing the lithium battery for few seconds would delete all settings including the secret password, but do not do it, if you are not sure how to set all the rest back to normal :)
Very bad advice in my opinion.
Title: No Engineers Code For A Advanced Panel
Post by: Marcos Figaro on July 06, 2008, 10:23:59 PM
Quote from: Buzzard905
Quote from: Marcos Figaro
Quote from: Graeme
because as mentioned it has been changed...
Right, normaly removing the lithium battery for few seconds would delete all settings including the secret password, but do not do it, if you are not sure how to set all the rest back to normal :)
Very bad advice in my opinion.
Yes indeed :)
Title: No Engineers Code For A Advanced Panel
Post by: Graeme on July 08, 2008, 10:09:34 PM
are you Benzerari in disguise???
Title: No Engineers Code For A Advanced Panel
Post by: Allen Higginson on July 09, 2008, 01:11:51 AM
Quote from: Graeme
are you Benzerari in disguise???
Very conspicuous by their absence Graham but yet sounds very present?
Title: No Engineers Code For A Advanced Panel
Post by: Marcos Figaro on July 09, 2008, 01:54:34 PM
Quote from: Graeme
are you Benzerari in disguise???
Congratulation to you Grame;

How did you know that ? don't tel by 'telepatie'
Title: No Engineers Code For A Advanced Panel
Post by: Marcos Figaro on July 09, 2008, 01:57:34 PM
Quote from: Buzzard905
Quote from: Graeme
are you Benzerari in disguise???
Very conspicuous by their absence Graham but yet sounds very present?
and to you Buzz, don't tell it is the 6th sense !
Title: No Engineers Code For A Advanced Panel
Post by: Allen Higginson on July 09, 2008, 02:15:09 PM
Quote from: Marcos Figaro
Quote from: Buzzard905
Quote from: Graeme
are you Benzerari in disguise???
Very conspicuous by their absence Graham but yet sounds very present?
and to you Buzz, don't tell it is the 6th sense !
Nope,after a while you get to recognise key words and sentance formation.
Title: No Engineers Code For A Advanced Panel
Post by: Marcos Figaro on July 09, 2008, 03:34:17 PM
Quote from: Buzzard905
Quote from: Marcos Figaro
Quote from: Buzzard905
Very conspicuous by their absence Graham but yet sounds very present?
and to you Buzz, don't tell it is the 6th sense !
Nope,after a while you get to recognise key words and sentance formation.
Bravo mate :)
Title: No Engineers Code For A Advanced Panel
Post by: Graeme on July 09, 2008, 04:49:38 PM
Quote from: Marcos Figaro
Quote from: Graeme
are you Benzerari in disguise???
Congratulation to you Grame;

How did you know that ? don't tel by 'telepatie'
ooh it was wild guess really.........