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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => Service Training OR Recruitment => Topic started by: Guest on December 15, 2004, 11:38:45 AM
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just wondering if any one had any tips on how to keep your heart rate down for this entrance test, a friend of mine is failing it by being two points over on his overall score, many thanks!
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Try being fit enough to pass it first, that would help.
Seriously, a good tip is to use the step test as a form of exercise to train on this way your body gets bit more used to this type of exercise.
BUt in all honesty there are only two explanations for failing it either your not fit enough or the guy/gal (see that pc), is suffering from extreme nervousness each time they take the test, the tester should take this into account but just try and relax!
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I've got my assement day on tuesday.
I was wondering too how to hold your heart rate down, Apart from actually being fit, Controling your breathing does help, But incredibly hard to do when actually doing the test.
Good luck to your friend for his next test.
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There is also the issue of having a higher than your normal resting heart rate when you begin - warmed up with an already speeding beat will mean a lower increase in the heart rate for each subsequent section. The result of the test is based on a graph with a line drawn through the rate at the end of each section, so if it is high to start with and does not raise so quickly then the incline will be lower. I do know of a 7 mile-a-day runner, determined as very fit by other tests around the same time, who failed the test on first attempt. They passed it one week later because they ran to the medical. So maybe the answer is how to keep your heart rate up prior to the test starting!
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nervousness keeps it up. i did a practice today at my local station and got a start of 92 heart rate, so quite high at rest.
i went over the 80% mark half way through stage 5.
any ideas how that seems?
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Controlling your breathing is a good way to help. The Chester Step Test isn't really a good demonstration of someones true fitness level anyway because it doesn't take into account your recovery rate which is a good sign of fitness!.
A much better test of true fitness is to do the Shuttle Run (Bleep Test) depending on which brigade you go for depends on the level you are required to reach, for example Somerset requires a level of 8.4 but Cornwall requires 9.6 you need to check with your own brigade.
Long, Slow deep breaths will help with the Step Test though, otherwise try asking if you can do a shuttle run they can only say no!. I always struggle to meet the required level on the step test but can easily do the bleep test!.
Good Luck anyway!
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Most people don't get to end of stage 4 so getting 80% in stage 5 should give an very good result. The simple graph, which should have been able to drawn immediately, would have given your VO max there and then?
Shuttle run is not in the new Ff tests and is now out of use in most as a result.
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nerves instantly gets your heart rate up.
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Controlling your breathing is a good way to help. The Chester Step Test isn't really a good demonstration of someones true fitness level anyway because it doesn't take into account your recovery rate which is a good sign of fitness!.
A much better test of true fitness is to do the Shuttle Run (Bleep Test) depending on which brigade you go for depends on the level you are required to reach, for example Somerset requires a level of 8.4 but Cornwall requires 9.6 you need to check with your own brigade.
Long, Slow deep breaths will help with the Step Test though, otherwise try asking if you can do a shuttle run they can only say no!. I always struggle to meet the required level on the step test but can easily do the bleep test!.
Good Luck anyway!
I don't think my brigade (north yorks) does the bleep test
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Before I eventualy joined the fire service I failed the 'chester step test' twice! There is no real secret to passing, fitness obviously hepls but the fact of the matter is the chart they use to determine your required 'point' level is flawed! Its based on the old national service standards. And as people have got heavier (but just as fit) over the years it hasn't been adjusted to compensate!
I know several PTIs & service fitness advisors that would love to see the back of it. I eventualy passed it by default as the next time I went for a test i was a year older and so went up a band on the chart! A total waste of time!
So don't be to upset if you do fail first time just keep at it, hopefuly the fire service will see sense and bin it!
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I hope they do bin it, i did my assesment with north yorks yesterday. I get the results in a couple of days.
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Got my results, I passed. I don't even know how!!
I 'think' it may because i started with a high pulse of about 110 and it took 3.5 stages to reach my max, I think if i'd started with a low heart rate i'd of failed.
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Got my results, I passed. I don't even know how!!
I 'think' it may because i started with a high pulse of about 110 and it took 3.5 stages to reach my max, I think if i'd started with a low heart rate i'd of failed.
Well Done Bud!!
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Cheers :)
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Hi Guys,
I already failed this test two years ago and I have another test in a few weeks (hopefuly!).
What is the criteria for passing?
What level do you need to reach before your heart rate goes above 80%?
I am 37 years old ATM and don't see me taking this test again if I fail this time.
Any info would be much appreciated.
Cheers, Simon.
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I think you need to look at the test itself, It doesn't realy prove a great deal. I have a freind who is a serving firefighter 5 years of service, he had to do the step test at the station and failed it. This bloke competes in triathlons and endurance races! His BMI was wrong for his age and as a result he failed.
The fire service is the ONLY service that still use this outdated method of testing someones suitability for the job. in my opinion if you can pass the new POEST job related tests and you are otherwise fit and healthy you should pass.
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Thanks for the relpy :)
I understand that the test is in no way conclusive, but I'm after ways of helping myself to get through it.
I am unable to train properly for the test if I do not know the criteria for passing or failing.
Also... How does starting with a high heart rate help your chances? I thought you had to complete the test without reaching your max. calculated heart rate.
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I work for the company Fitech, we are the people that devise these fitness tests and record the information.
If anybody has any questions or would like some advice on fitness assessment I would be happy to answer your questions. Please email me at r.pitkin@fitech.co.uk.
To answer some of your questions, the chester step test is a very good indication of a person fitness. Some people may fail the test, this is only because they are not aerobically fit.
To gain entry into the fire service you have to reach a minimum VO2 max of 40ml/kg/min which is tested by the chester step test. This level is well above a normal persons fitness, to reach this level you must be fit, a good guide to how fit you must be would equate to being able to run a mile in under 7 minutes.
This test was selected as it mimics the job stresses a firefighter may endure, ie climbing steps or ladders.
Regards
Robin Pitkin
BSc, Msc (Sports Science)
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Hi,
I,ve got my medical in one week and i'm worried about the step test. I can get to level 11.3 on the bleep test so i know that i'm fairly fit, but after reading all the posts here, and looking at some other site's, it seems as though that is not enough. I found a site that suggested a similar test (3 mins of stepping 12" at 92 BPM of a metronome, take pulse for 15 seconds and times by four), and my results were below average. PANIC!
My question is, after reading a post from vecsri, it seems that he passed by starting with a high pulse. Does anyone know if you are allowed to warm up before taking the test? If not, what about any ways i can speed up my pulse to start? Quick dash to the loo and do some secret squat jumps?
I know i am fit enough, and this test just seems a bit inaccurate.
Any ideas from anyone would be great
Thanks
Worried Paul