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THE REGULATORY REFORM (FIRE SAFETY) ORDER 2005 => Q & A => Topic started by: dfol on June 10, 2008, 08:25:19 PM

Title: Fire doors - colour
Post by: dfol on June 10, 2008, 08:25:19 PM
It was drawn to my attention today that all fire doors now need to be painted green. Any comments?
Title: Fire doors - colour
Post by: Chris Houston on June 10, 2008, 09:19:00 PM
There is no such requirement.
Title: Fire doors - colour
Post by: toby14483 on June 10, 2008, 11:42:27 PM
Thank god for that.
Title: Fire doors - colour
Post by: Chris Houston on June 11, 2008, 12:05:49 AM
Naturally, they must all be red.


























Just kidding!
Title: Fire doors - colour
Post by: toby14483 on June 11, 2008, 07:28:32 AM
I always thought they had to be propped open with fire extinguishers. Or at least some places will make you think that.
Title: Fire doors - colour
Post by: Davo on June 11, 2008, 09:15:23 AM
Chris

Don't be stupid, how would you see the fire extinguisher if the door was painted the same colour?

davo
Title: Fire doors - colour
Post by: kurnal on June 11, 2008, 09:46:14 AM
I have come across this before in the Oldham area - apparently someone doing fire warden training courses in that area is telling people that in accordance with signs and signals regs exit doors must be painted in accordance with Eupopean Safety colours- ie green for exit doors. And they believed it and indeed one large Mill that I did a risk assessment on has had all its doors painted green as a result. Makes you wonder.

Then you get the oposite angle- I have lost quite a large customers future business  because I have given them "wrong" information in my risk assessment. I told them it was their job to make arrangements for the assistance of disabled persons in refuges and the role of the fire service is purely as a safety net. They checked with their fire training provider (An apostle who drives an ambulance) and with the local fire station both of whom said I was wrong, and all they had to do was to provide refuges for wheelchair users - it was the fire brigades job to move people from the refuge.

C'est la vie.
Title: Fire doors - colour
Post by: Chris Houston on June 11, 2008, 10:23:27 AM
of course the original question was about fire doors, not fire exits (neither of which need to be any colour).
Title: Fire doors - colour
Post by: CivvyFSO on June 11, 2008, 12:00:58 PM
Quote from: kurnal
and all they had to do was to provide refuges for wheelchair users - it was the fire brigades job to move people from the refuge.
I hope you advised them to get that one in writing.
Title: Fire doors - colour
Post by: nearlythere on June 11, 2008, 12:12:31 PM
Quote from: Chris Houston
Naturally, they must all be red.

Just kidding!
No. Blue for existing. If they were red they would not be fire doors.
Title: Fire doors - colour
Post by: nearlythere on June 11, 2008, 12:23:06 PM
Quote from: kurnal
I have come across this before in the Oldham area - apparently someone doing fire warden training courses in that area is telling people that in accordance with signs and signals regs exit doors must be painted in accordance with Eupopean Safety colours- ie green for exit doors. And they believed it and indeed one large Mill that I did a risk assessment on has had all its doors painted green as a result. Makes you wonder.

Then you get the oposite angle- I have lost quite a large customers future business  because I have given them "wrong" information in my risk assessment. I told them it was their job to make arrangements for the assistance of disabled persons in refuges and the role of the fire service is purely as a safety net. They checked with their fire training provider (An apostle who drives an ambulance) and with the local fire station both of whom said I was wrong, and all they had to do was to provide refuges for wheelchair users - it was the fire brigades job to move people from the refuge.

C'est la vie.
No disrespect to the local fire station but if it was anything like local fire stations in my former Service they would have very limited Fire Safety knowledge, particularily in areas such as this.
There is only one thing worse than someone who knows a little fire safety knowledge and that is someone who thinks they know it all.
Title: Fire doors - colour
Post by: Mike Buckley on June 11, 2008, 04:58:22 PM
and wants to sell you fire proof paint to paint your fire doors!
Title: Fire doors - colour
Post by: dfol on June 14, 2008, 09:35:01 PM
Quote from: nearlythere
Quote from: Chris Houston
Naturally, they must all be red.

Just kidding!
No. Blue for existing. If they were red they would not be fire doors.
So are you saying red doors cannot be fire doors?
My Corporate colours are red this,that and everything!!
Title: Fire doors - colour
Post by: richard-derby on June 25, 2008, 08:36:23 PM
i thought they had to be pink??????????? in ladies offices and blue in boys??????????
or have i got this wrong again??

so many colours i dont know what to pick. can i change the fire door colour each month?

help!!! lol
Title: Fire doors - colour
Post by: Chris Houston on June 25, 2008, 08:46:12 PM
Quote from: dfol
Quote from: nearlythere
Quote from: Chris Houston
Naturally, they must all be red.

Just kidding!
No. Blue for existing. If they were red they would not be fire doors.
So are you saying red doors cannot be fire doors?
My Corporate colours are red this,that and everything!!
Just for the avoidance of any doubt:

Fire doors and fire exits can be any colour.  Fire exit doors should have suitable signs.  There are no rules on the colour of doors.
Title: Fire doors - colour
Post by: nearlythere on June 26, 2008, 07:26:53 AM
Quote from: Chris Houston
There is no such requirement.
There is if you are a green paint salesman.
Title: Fire doors - colour
Post by: Frazer Argyros-Farrell on July 02, 2008, 11:01:06 AM
Quote from: CivvyFSO
Quote from: kurnal
and all they had to do was to provide refuges for wheelchair users - it was the fire brigades job to move people from the refuge.
I hope you advised them to get that one in writing.
I have come across this one alot - it appears this little gem came from (among other sources) the NEBOSH certs and diplomas a few years ago........... I beleive this has now been rectified!

There are a number of organisations who paint fire walls and fire doors certain colours or paint strips on them in an attempt to stop people damaging them, drilling throught them, etc...

Can't see it working though as a lot of contractors seem to have monochrome tunnel vision anyway!=)