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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => Fire Safety => Topic started by: GB on July 21, 2008, 02:49:51 PM

Title: Inner Rooms
Post by: GB on July 21, 2008, 02:49:51 PM

I have interconnecting rooms with no door seperation i.e a dining room leading to a kitchen area but with an open doorway (with no door fitted!) Is this an inner room?

Title: Inner Rooms
Post by: slubberdegullion on July 21, 2008, 03:51:08 PM

Only if the area you talk of can only be accessed through another room that you haven't mentioned.  Otherwise, not technically.

Stu

Title: Inner Rooms
Post by: CivvyFSO on July 21, 2008, 04:12:40 PM

I agree with Stu, but just look at it from a different point of view. The normal inner-room condition is a potential problem because there is the risk of someone in the inner room not being aware of a fire in the access room, thus becoming trapped. If this is not the case, then there is no problem. But, hide someone around the corner in the 'almost' inner room, and stick a desk there for them to sit at while concentrating on the days takings and we have a different story. Despite not technically being an inner room, the person involved would definitely benefit from detection in the access room. Its down to judgement. (For a change) :)

Title: Inner Rooms
Post by: Paul2886 on July 21, 2008, 04:28:18 PM

And of course putting smoke detection in the access room will probably give nuisance alarms owing to it being adjacent to the kitchen in this particular case. Putting heat detection in the access room may not be an option owing to the potential of smoke build up before activation of the system. All needs to be looked at and assessed carefully.

Title: Inner Rooms
Post by: kurnal on July 21, 2008, 08:00:35 PM

The aico website is now listing their new multisensor alarm Ei2110. It does not recommend that they be installed in a kitchen but the situation described - especially if there is an extractor system in the kitchen or a reasonable natural smoke reservoir- ie a door way without a door- it may be an option.

The website describes the device and makes claims about both its sensitivity to all types of fire and its resistance to false alarms but does not state whether the sensors work independently or in concert. I dont know any more about the product but I thought it may be an option worth looking at.  Has anyone any more details?