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Title: C-Tec AFP panel
Post by: bibbage on September 11, 2008, 05:17:34 PM
Hi
When you "Scan for Contamination Faults" on the AFP panel it then asks you to "Enter Adjustment Value % of Manufacturers Recommended Limit".
Does anyone know what this setting should be for XP95 devices.  If the setting is left at 00 the contamination level is at 34.
I have spoken to C-Tec and Apollo and they were no help at all. Cheers
Title: C-Tec AFP panel
Post by: Galeon on September 11, 2008, 05:26:17 PM
Sounds like a good reason not to use this equipment to me.
Title: C-Tec AFP panel
Post by: Big_Fella on September 11, 2008, 09:47:19 PM
Here here !!

Although when asking for % levels wouldn't the panel determine the % range from the standard 'normal' analogue levels for Apollo.

Generally an Apollo Optical detector will sit fine at a reading of 34, generally anything from 28-40 is fine.. if it falls below around the 28 mark it may go into a fault  condition.... If the detector reading was starting to creep above 40-45 mark, I would think about cleaning the detector.

therefore the % level would be that out of Apollo's so called norm.. Would be worth entering, say 20% and see which detectors are highlighted then checking these analogue values.

Incidentely.. the Apollo reading of 34 may not necessarily mean 34%.. it's just the analogue value determined by the Apollo protocol.
Title: C-Tec AFP panel
Post by: Galeon on September 12, 2008, 10:27:05 AM
Further to Big Fella's concise answer , I cant see why Apollo didn't have an answer , as this panel would have been on their approved list , this function is merely the same as putting a loop tester on the wiring , I think their loop tester may have had something to do with control equipment way back .
The man  who I always speak to is Andy Haynes at Apollo who is first class , try and see if you can get him.
Title: C-Tec AFP panel
Post by: Allen Higginson on September 12, 2008, 03:42:04 PM
Further to the Apollo analogue values the given value for the detectors is 25 +/- 7.
Title: C-Tec AFP panel
Post by: Benzerari on September 13, 2008, 12:52:22 AM
Quote from: Big_Fella
Here here !!

Although when asking for % levels wouldn't the panel determine the % range from the standard 'normal' analogue levels for Apollo.

Generally an Apollo Optical detector will sit fine at a reading of 34, generally anything from 28-40 is fine.. if it falls below around the 28 mark it may go into a fault  condition.... If the detector reading was starting to creep above 40-45 mark, I would think about cleaning the detector.

therefore the % level would be that out of Apollo's so called norm.. Would be worth entering, say 20% and see which detectors are highlighted then checking these analogue values.

Incidentely.. the Apollo reading of 34 may not necessarily mean 34%.. it's just the analogue value determined by the Apollo protocol.
The practical normal analogue value reading for Apollo optical detector, I have seen up till now is 23-24 this is not within the tolerance 28-40 as you said, and the panels wasn't in fault condition! as far as I have been aware

Also 16 constant reading for MCPs.

What do you think?
Title: C-Tec AFP panel
Post by: Galeon on September 13, 2008, 12:47:42 PM
That's what Buzz said 25 up + & - 7 so there is no issue with the reading you have got , agree mcp @ 16 so is sounders and ancillary devices , 4 being fault.