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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => General Interest => Topic started by: Allen Higginson on November 09, 2008, 06:21:05 PM

Title: Russian Sub Deaths Caused by Extinguishant Discharge
Post by: Allen Higginson on November 09, 2008, 06:21:05 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7718156.stm
Bad story demonstrating poor working practices and procedures,although not always confined to armed forces outside the UK.
Title: Russian Sub Deaths Caused by Extinguishant Discharge
Post by: messy on November 09, 2008, 06:36:20 PM
Let's hope the guys who wired up the nuclear missiles were a little more competent or else there'll be more than 20 dead
Title: Russian Sub Deaths Caused by Extinguishant Discharge
Post by: AnthonyB on November 09, 2008, 11:44:56 PM
I guessed it would be a Halon system (I know the BBC page says Freon), but I wonder which and at which design concentration.

Once MB, CTC & CBM were dumped here we stuck to 1211 & 1301, but Russia was heavily into Halon 2402 - DTE (Dibromotetrafluoroethane) which is more toxic than Halon 1211 or 1301, but is far safer than CTC, MB, CBM et al. It also is the most effective halon having an inhibitory factor of only 2.1%

Perhaps the system used an older agent such as MB, which would explain the deaths

One wonders what lock offs were fitted against accidental release.
Title: Russian Sub Deaths Caused by Extinguishant Discharge
Post by: Benzerari on November 10, 2008, 09:43:05 AM
Russia still have lots of old submarines and other old stuff that have probably been designed to old fire and safety codes, I think that's the point, we may make fortune if our sales mans achieve to open a market out there... etc. Since Russia’s economy is booming and actually they are looking for better perspectives even in fire safety, it's an opportunity... etc :)