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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => Fire Safety => Topic started by: Benzerari on November 24, 2008, 02:01:48 PM

Title: Are Hotels residential or commercial BMOs ?
Post by: Benzerari on November 24, 2008, 02:01:48 PM
Are hotels considered as residential or commercial buildings of multiple occupancies BMOs?

What sort of standard should be applied to them?

What level of protection should be defined?

Thank you
Title: Re: Are Hotels residential or commercial premises ?
Post by: wee brian on November 24, 2008, 02:05:57 PM
both
Title: Re: Are Hotels residential or commercial premises ?
Post by: Benzerari on November 24, 2008, 05:46:57 PM
both

Do you mean then, a hotel can have part 6 system of BS5839 ?
Title: Re: Are Hotels residential or commercial BMOs ?
Post by: kurnal on November 24, 2008, 06:07:18 PM
For the very small l B&B resembling someones home with very few let rooms can have a  part 6 system, but anything on a commercial basis should use L2 as a benchmark standard.
Title: Re: Are Hotels residential or commercial BMOs ?
Post by: Benzerari on November 24, 2008, 06:22:39 PM
For the very small l B&B resembling someones home with very few let rooms can have a  part 6 system, but anything on a commercial basis should use L2 as a benchmark standard.

Good; this makes sense, but for the commercial basis I assume large hotels, L2 then would be the MINIMUM requirement, so it could be L1 in some circums. couldn’t?
Title: Re: Are Hotels residential or commercial BMOs ?
Post by: kurnal on November 24, 2008, 07:37:29 PM
Well yes it could be- it could also be L3 in others depending on the assessment of risk, layout and character of the building and the range of services offered.
Title: Re: Are Hotels residential or commercial BMOs ?
Post by: Benzerari on November 24, 2008, 08:07:54 PM
Well yes it could be- it could also be L3 in others depending on the assessment of risk, layout and character of the building and the range of services offered.

Emhh, this make sense, this is the first time I have known that Hotels could be just either residential or commercial. with part 6 system or Ls (L1 to L3...)
Title: Re: Are Hotels residential or commercial BMOs ?
Post by: kurnal on November 24, 2008, 09:12:16 PM
Yes. L2 is the benchmark but sometimes due to layout and nature of the building there will be no difference between the L2 and L3 in practice. And sometimes in practical terms your L1 might just be an L2 or L3  with detectors in the roof space.
Title: Re: Are Hotels residential or commercial BMOs ?
Post by: Thomas Brookes on November 25, 2008, 10:10:04 AM
Hi Benz,

Don't get too excited, Kurnals meaning guest houses and bed and breakfasts small establishments with just a few rooms, these are not classed as Hotels.

Hotels can not have a part 6 system because, under new accomadation classification system to be a hotel you have to have a minimum amount of rooms, dinning rooms facilities etc and these must have a commercial fire alarm.
Title: Re: Are Hotels residential or commercial BMOs ?
Post by: jokar on November 25, 2008, 10:16:12 AM
Lets re-classify the question then and ask whether sleeping risks premises can be subject to either part 1 or part 6?  The answer is yes as Kurnal has stated.
Title: Re: Are Hotels residential or commercial BMOs ?
Post by: wee brian on November 25, 2008, 04:06:24 PM
Part 6 is for domestic. hotel;s arent domestic but they are residential commercial (part 1).

People sometimes use part 6 installatio sin very small premises. It's fair enough.