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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => Technical Advice => Topic started by: Thomas Brookes on December 16, 2008, 11:53:03 AM

Title: BS5839 Competent person?
Post by: Thomas Brookes on December 16, 2008, 11:53:03 AM
After the discussion on who is competent, please vote if you would like to see something in the BS5839 setting out who is competent.
Title: Re: BS5839 Competent person?
Post by: Graeme on December 16, 2008, 12:01:17 PM
i have said yes and i think it's a good idea but personally if it came into force i think i would go and work in Tesco's as i have done enough already and could not face anymore.

Title: Re: BS5839 Competent person?
Post by: Thomas Brookes on December 16, 2008, 12:05:46 PM
I think it would have to  include some of the better courses already, with maybe a refresher every three years.
Title: Re: BS5839 Competent person?
Post by: Wiz on December 16, 2008, 12:30:54 PM
I voted No because I don't think the BSI should determine precisely what level of competency is required whilst they are also in the business of running training courses.

It is bad enough that they currently do this whilst also determining the 'industry standard' recommendations.

If we are not careful, the only recognised 'competent' people will be those who have attended a four week BSI training course at a £1,000 a day (with annual refreshers!).

The BSI are already not shy at charging loads of money for slightly amended standards, don't give them any more encouragement to fleece us!
Title: Re: BS5839 Competent person?
Post by: Graeme on December 16, 2008, 12:56:35 PM
Wiz

never thought of it that way but i see your point. More money as usual to the ones who make an effort to do things the right way.
Title: Re: BS5839 Competent person?
Post by: Benzerari on December 16, 2008, 01:17:42 PM
If it's included within BS5839, it wouldn't be every thing about fire engineer competency, it's rather competency in relation to the application of the standard…, but this is not every thing, the competent should have other skills, knowledge and expertise related to the industry too…etc
Title: Re: BS5839 Competent person?
Post by: John Dragon on December 16, 2008, 04:01:27 PM
I voted no for the same reasons as Graeme and Wiz.
Title: Re: BS5839 Competent person?
Post by: David Rooney on December 16, 2008, 05:07:55 PM

So I take it this competent person is going to be "recommended" to be used in the same way a third party UKAS accredited firm is recommended etc.....

Therefore it an be ignored in the same way ??

Title: Re: BS5839 Competent person?
Post by: Allen Higginson on December 16, 2008, 05:14:15 PM
Nope for the reasons given by others.