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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => Technical Advice => Topic started by: Davro on January 21, 2009, 10:14:43 PM
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I came across a 8 zone panel of these (new type) and i found a manual to put it into one man walk test and then disabled the sounders but the bells went off? Can you test this panel in omt without having to take out the sounder cables? I usually disable sounders and then do my tests and walk back to panel to reset. (small systems only).
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do you mean the CFP type? plastic enclosure.
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do you mean the CFP type? plastic enclosure.
Yup!I found that out as well.
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I think the one man test is zonal, ie you have to select what zone you are testing and if you stray into another zone it will sound alarms.
C Tec make good nurse call and disabled toilet alarm equipment - Im still dubious about the quality of the fire alarm panels
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I used a 2-zone CFP panel about 4 years ago to replace an 18 year old JSB panel in my local church's Parish Centre. Build quality seems good and we've had no problems with it. (Other than when water leaked into it from a faulty roof valley.)
Irksome thing is that with a plastic enclosure you have to fit earthing washers to all the MICC where it enters to link the sheaths together when the metal enclosure of the JSB did it for you.....
I used ctec as it was reasonably priced and their local distributor was on the industrial estate on the other side of our churchyard and had it in stock!
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I think the one man test is zonal, ie you have to select what zone you are testing and if you stray into another zone it will sound alarms.
C Tec make good nurse call and disabled toilet alarm equipment - Im still dubious about the quality of the fire alarm panels
But the bells still ring,regardless of whether you have put a disablement on.
As far as build quality goes,I had one of these delivered with the sounder terminals not installed on the PCB.Other than that they are one of the better over the counter contractor panels out there (but if you take into account the competition in this area......I'll leave it at that!!).
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Oh I see, I misread earlier.
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local distributor was on the industrial estate on the other side of our churchyard and had it in stock!
that would be the very reason i would not use one John.. ;)
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Well I'm going to stick up for this panel, very well made and reliable been using them for years. All zones can be put on OMT at the same time and if you don't want the sounders the connection block can be unplugged from the PCB, no need to take the wires out.
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Yes it is the plastic type and so the answer is take bells out. The panels i fit are sms xenex panels of which i've found best to buy and fit/service. Any other good makes out there?
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Haes
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Well I'm going to stick up for this panel, very well made and reliable been using them for years. All zones can be put on OMT at the same time and if you don't want the sounders the connection block can be unplugged from the PCB, no need to take the wires out.
I always found the metal biscuit tin model pretty bomb proof.I think the issue is with them is that they are available to every Tom,Dick and Harry (but mostly Dick) and so leads to some very dodgy/shoddy installs by contractors who want a fire alarm in a box solution (as I said,not the worst in this field - another manufacturer wins that hands down).
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Haes
Agrred - very versatile and networkable via a pair (and I can't use them as we make our own!)
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Haes
Agrred - very versatile and networkable via a pair (and I can't use them as we make our own!)
It is... and even basic form of programming on this conventional panel... very good indeed
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Haes are good especially the Excel range.
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The Excel is a really good panel and i would not use anything else now.
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.... All zones can be put on OMT at the same time and if you don't want the sounders the connection block can be unplugged from the PCB, no need to take the wires out.
I think this is the closest answer to Davro's enquiry, also I may add some thing..., the OMT (One Man Test) through the jumper.., can only insure the ‘walk test’ and not ‘silent mode test’ since:
Walk test: is where alarm goes off for few seconds during test, then the system reset itself...
Silent mode test: (conventional sys.) is where no alarm going off during test, just fire condition displayed on panel, but not necessarily a resetable test...
For C-Tec; and as far as I remember the sounder circuit has to be disconnected in addition to OMT jumper setting, in order to get the resetable silent mode.
Probably the terminology may mean different things to different people…, but any way this is just my understanding :)
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Haes are good especially the Excel range.
look out for the new Fusion panel