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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => Fire Safety => Topic started by: Mr. P on June 02, 2009, 09:00:31 AM
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RR(FS)O ch23 general duties of employees.
Staff sleeping in accomodation provided by employer on and or adjacent to their place of work. For an individual putting [himself] and or others at risk from affects of [his] acts or omissions in such premises, is there a way of catching this for enforcement? Are these premises included as place of work - employer still has responsibility I know, but I am missing the wood for the trees at the moment and just need someone to re-align me. Gratis. :P
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Whether the flat is a place of work or part of a place of work does not really matter under the Fire Safety Order. Thank Goodness.
The issue is are the persons in the sleeping accommodation relevant persons who may be affected by a fire in the workplace.
If there is full compartmentation between the workplace and the flats and totally seperate entrance and egress then the flats may be domestic premises and not subject to the Order.
Otherwise they must be considered as relevant persons and the RP must implement general fire precautions to protect them.
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Kurnal, Cheers for that quick response. Purpose made en-suite bed rooms, with common access/egress routes and common kitchen/utility/lounge rooms. All with L1 afd, Separated from work. All good, but, 'someone' keeps messing with extinguishers and afd.
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Sounds just like a fire station in the good old days.(apart from the en suite rooms andthe fire alarm system)
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appears theirs loads of these on hampshires enforcement pages
http://www.hantsfire.gov.uk/forbusiness/firesafetyregs/enforcement/enforcement-register.htm
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All good, but, 'someone' keeps messing with extinguishers and afd.
No need to look at article 23. Article 32(10) means anyone (Apart from the Queen of course) that we can blame for an offence can be prosecuted. So if we have a breach of article 13 due to someone messing with the AFD or extinguishers, and that breach is enough to put people at risk of death or serious injury, then the person who is messing with them can be held accountable.
It will be catching them that is the problem, then having enough evidence to prove it beyond reasonable doubt.
It is much easier to prove someone hasn't complied with an enforcement notice, or that they haven't got an alarm system.