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Title: BLC loop 02 interrupt.....
Post by: youngsy01 on June 15, 2009, 09:50:09 PM

BLC loop 02 interrupt

Called to a large site today to this fault, after previous maintenace company proved incompetant at the task!

Is there a panel that tells you which device is polling incorrupt / bad data?

This would give you a great heads up.... as a pose to an afternoon on site finding the devil device.

Ta muchly

Title: Re: BLC loop 02 interrupt.....
Post by: Big_Fella on June 15, 2009, 09:52:21 PM

Which panel is at the site, and what protocol is it running, do you know?

Title: Re: BLC loop 02 interrupt.....
Post by: youngsy01 on June 15, 2009, 09:56:28 PM

Vega running apollo XP95.

Fault turned out to be a call point!

Title: Re: BLC loop 02 interrupt.....
Post by: Big_Fella on June 15, 2009, 09:57:42 PM

Could you not check the devices analogue value..? Or were they all appearing correct..?

Title: Re: BLC loop 02 interrupt.....
Post by: youngsy01 on June 15, 2009, 10:01:10 PM

All appeared correct........

Title: Re: BLC loop 02 interrupt.....
Post by: Big_Fella on June 15, 2009, 10:19:06 PM

Sometimes spurious faults with devices are only indicated on a panel like this and it can take a while to determine which device is in fault unfortunately.  This wasn't running radio devices on it by any chance was it...?

Do you know how old the panel is...?  As initially there were software issues, which were corrected in later releases of software for the panel

Title: Re: BLC loop 02 interrupt.....
Post by: youngsy01 on June 15, 2009, 10:32:04 PM

No radio devices running.... panel must be approximately 6-10 years old.

Another quick one...... auto learn on the Kidde Vega does that highlight only additional devices found like advanced, or does it over write existing like Kentec.

Im going down to see Kidde on the 25th, so will be much more familiar then.

Title: Re: BLC loop 02 interrupt.....
Post by: Allen Higginson on June 15, 2009, 11:06:17 PM

Aside from the software issue (which KIDDE were quick to respond to and rectify - weell,thats what I found!) I liked the VEGA.From memory though it autolearns without comparing the current device list so no error reported.
I have a manual on it on a folder somewheres so I'll have a look at it.
allen

Title: Re: BLC loop 02 interrupt.....
Post by: Galeon on June 16, 2009, 09:39:03 AM

We had a mare with loop sounders , when the panel came out first.

Title: Re: BLC loop 02 interrupt.....
Post by: GregC on June 16, 2009, 10:02:55 AM

Vega can be a pain.

The logon count is the important part.

If you accept with out reviewing any changes you can lose devices.

Detectors that were removed and isolated for example, if they are then reinstated but no auto learn and logon count accepted they sit on the loop, cause loads of problems but are not visible on loop scans.

First thing to do with a vega with problems is an autolearn then compare logon changes