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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => Fire Safety => Topic started by: Mushy on July 21, 2009, 03:51:55 PM

Title: Fire suppression for kitchen ranges...
Post by: Mushy on July 21, 2009, 03:51:55 PM
....anyone know any reputable firms...someone that you have dealt with maybe?
Title: Re: Fire suppression for kitchen ranges...
Post by: Phoenix on July 21, 2009, 10:07:38 PM
The most common one is:

https://www.ansul.com/en/Products/kitchen_sys/kitchen_list.asp

Stu


Title: Re: Fire suppression for kitchen ranges...
Post by: AnthonyB on July 21, 2009, 11:16:25 PM
To make it fair:

http://www.amerexfire.co.uk/kitchensystemskp.htm

http://www.amerexfire.co.uk/kitchensystemszonedefence.htm

Don't forget water mist, which Pyrene was using for kitchen range supression in the 70's and is a viable alternative to Wet Chemical (or BC Powder in the days of the Pyrene system)
Title: Re: Fire suppression for kitchen ranges...
Post by: Allen Higginson on July 22, 2009, 12:00:41 AM
We do one as well -
 
Sinorix™ Kitchen Systems
Using a low pH aqueous solution of organic
salts, our fixed kitchen systems rapidly knock
down flames, cool hot surfaces and form a
vapour-securing barrier to prevent re-ignition.
Operation can be automatic or manual and
clean-up is simple; with a nearly neutral pH
value, business can quickly be resumed.
Sinorix™ foam and kitchen systems

(but tbh, the Ansul is the most popular/well known).
Title: Re: Fire suppression for kitchen ranges...
Post by: Psuedonym on October 10, 2009, 09:23:27 PM
Late in the day I know.
Mushy, just ensure the installer is not a subbie for your providor, chasing problems following install can be problematic as their priority is the next job not previous installs. Make sure your providor is using "his" own engineers.
(Both Ansul and Amerex use a limited number of UK registered distributors - check for up to date registration and certification of both providor and engineers virified from the manufacturor Ansul/Amerex for example. All have to carry a copy so it won't be an issue.
Title: Re: Fire suppression for kitchen ranges...
Post by: ashleyLFC on October 12, 2009, 02:00:16 PM
I'd contact Ultra Suppression Systems in Bucks, they deal with water mist but i understand approved installer of the Ansul R102 system.
I organised a CPD event recently where they gladly came along and presented a session on such systems.
Speak to David Plummer on 01494 444 123
Title: Re: Fire suppression for kitchen ranges...
Post by: Mushy on April 09, 2010, 09:58:58 AM
Thanks all

We have decided now (new financial year!) that the Ansul R-102 is the one we want...however the only approved distributors in this country are in this link

http://www.ansul.com/en/Distributor/dist_int.asp

all up in manchester
Title: Re: Fire suppression for kitchen ranges...
Post by: AnthonyB on April 09, 2010, 10:44:08 PM
That's because that is where Wormalds base was (who Tyco absorbed a few years back).

There are far more people who do the Ansul kit, Tyco are listed as the trade importer/distributor as they elected not to have an Ansul UK spin-off, but they sell to a range of authorised dealers including:

www.flamefast-fire-suppression.co.uk

www.teleganprotection.com

www.abbotfiregroup.co.uk

www.protec.co.uk

www.ultrass.co.uk

www.goldstarfv.co.uk

http://www.ardent-uk.com/

and many more.................
Title: Re: Fire suppression for kitchen ranges...
Post by: Psuedonym on April 13, 2010, 09:38:11 PM
Well if we're gonna name names!
Our lot Chubb Fire (East Midlands) Mechanical Dept (H/O Windsor 01753 833844 mechanical@chubb.co.uk) provide a genuine nationwide service (Install, Maintenance, Call Outs).

I would get a few quotes first and talk to major companies (i.e. end users) before placing your expensive order. There's a few companies out there whose install work gets faulted by more reputable co's. at a later date when a new service company checks the systems. But its difficult then to get recourse.

If the install lads don't have a copy of the latest Ansul R102 specs with them, then don't let them through your door as they won't be installing to UL300.
Title: Re: Fire suppression for kitchen ranges...
Post by: AnthonyB on April 13, 2010, 10:49:03 PM
You need to have a word with your web chaps - the companies I listed were the first ones that came up on a simple UK only Google search  :)

It's a bit Ironic a UTC company has to put in a Tyco product, then again for several years Tyco put in UTC group company extinguishers (Gloria).

Very good point about the quality of install - the fixed systems have to be carefully engineered and installed to be effective it not just a case of randomly chucking in pipes & nozzles....