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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => Fire Safety => Topic started by: nearlythere on July 31, 2009, 08:39:26 AM

Title: Fire station gutted.
Post by: nearlythere on July 31, 2009, 08:39:26 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8177701.stm

Wonder who did the Fire Risk Assessment? ::)
Title: Re: Fire station gutted.
Post by: Midland Retty on July 31, 2009, 10:11:20 AM
I wonder who left the toaster on more like! :-\

Joking aside, could this have been a deliberate attack ? Will be interesting to see the outcome.
Title: Re: Fire station gutted.
Post by: Allen Higginson on July 31, 2009, 03:15:33 PM
"There was no smoke alarm fitted in the building.

A Northern Ireland Fire and Rescue Service (NIFRS) spokesperson said "the primary purpose of a smoke alarm is to alert the occupants at the early stage of fire and give people early warning to plan their escape".

"Smoke alarms do not prevent fires," the NIFRS spokesperson said."


Maybe not but in property protection they can minimilize damage!

Title: Re: Fire station gutted.
Post by: Galeon on July 31, 2009, 04:37:14 PM
Case of : Doctor heal oneself
Title: Re: Fire station gutted.
Post by: colin todd on August 01, 2009, 03:16:39 AM
God-fearing Retty, No one dislikes the NIFRS enough to burn down their station. Its not London.
Title: Re: Fire station gutted.
Post by: nearlythere on August 01, 2009, 03:41:50 PM
Probably much more economical to lose a fire station every 3 or 4 decades than install and maintain property detection systems throughout Service over the same period.
Title: Re: Fire station gutted.
Post by: Clive on August 14, 2009, 03:43:33 PM
I have seen some realistic drills carried out on fire stations, but that beats them all.

The brigade computer will throw up a visit from a fire safety officer now !
Title: Re: Fire station gutted.
Post by: hammer1 on August 14, 2009, 03:53:47 PM
God-fearing Retty, No one dislikes the NIFRS enough to burn down their station. Its not London.

I take it you are not familiar with the local hostilities between certain groups in that area and anything that symbolise authority, including the NIFRS. They have tried to burn (petrol bomb) the vehicles on numerous occasions, so the station would be no surprise .
Title: Re: Fire station gutted.
Post by: Allen Higginson on August 14, 2009, 04:23:33 PM
God-fearing Retty, No one dislikes the NIFRS enough to burn down their station. Its not London.

I take it you are not familiar with the local hostilities between certain groups in that area and anything that symbolise authority, including the NIFRS. They have tried to burn (petrol bomb) the vehicles on numerous occasions, so the station would be no surprise .
I always find it better to do a little bit of research before posting an "opinion" - electrical fault has been given as most likely cause and it was definately accidental.
Tenders have been targetted (as well as abulance NIAS vehicles) but this has generally occurred during riotous outbreaks etc.
However,this is nothing to do with "local hostilities" but due to a total lack of respect for anything,which isn't unique to over here -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7699134.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/6726989.stm
http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/116105/Gang-attacked-fire-crew-hours-after-hero-s-funeral/
Title: Re: Fire station gutted.
Post by: hammer1 on August 14, 2009, 04:51:33 PM
God-fearing Retty, No one dislikes the NIFRS enough to burn down their station. Its not London.

I take it you are not familiar with the local hostilities between certain groups in that area and anything that symbolise authority, including the NIFRS. They have tried to burn (petrol bomb) the vehicles on numerous occasions, so the station would be no surprise .
I always find it better to do a little bit of research before posting an "opinion" - electrical fault has been given as most likely cause and it was definately accidental.
Tenders have been targetted (as well as abulance NIAS vehicles) but this has generally occurred during riotous outbreaks etc.
However,this is nothing to do with "local hostilities" but due to a total lack of respect for anything,which isn't unique to over here -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7699134.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/6726989.stm
http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/116105/Gang-attacked-fire-crew-hours-after-hero-s-funeral/


I was just stating that it would not be a surprise if it was deliberate. And for someone who has family in N.Belfast it most is to do with 'local hostilities' from the youth gangs that attack these appliances and the reasons behind it to them is that anything in authority is a target for their aggression (in other words an excuse due to as you say 'lack of respect' and to cause maximum disruption for the gang leaders).

There have been many occasions where deliberate fires have started to ambush the arriving fire appliances which is shocking, but a sad state of affairs, and agree it is not solely happening over there but all over the UK.
Title: Re: Fire station gutted.
Post by: CivvyFSO on August 17, 2009, 11:07:43 AM
God-fearing Retty, No one dislikes the NIFRS enough to burn down their station. Its not London.

I take it you are not familiar with the local hostilities between certain groups in that area and anything that symbolise authority, including the NIFRS. They have tried to burn (petrol bomb) the vehicles on numerous occasions, so the station would be no surprise .
I always find it better to do a little bit of research before posting an "opinion" - electrical fault has been given as most likely cause and it was definately accidental.
Tenders have been targetted (as well as abulance NIAS vehicles) but this has generally occurred during riotous outbreaks etc.
However,this is nothing to do with "local hostilities" but due to a total lack of respect for anything,which isn't unique to over here -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7699134.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/6726989.stm
http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/116105/Gang-attacked-fire-crew-hours-after-hero-s-funeral/


I was just stating that it would not be a surprise if it was deliberate. And for someone who has family in N.Belfast it most is to do with 'local hostilities' from the youth gangs that attack these appliances and the reasons behind it to them is that anything in authority is a target for their aggression (in other words an excuse due to as you say 'lack of respect' and to cause maximum disruption for the gang leaders).

There have been many occasions where deliberate fires have started to ambush the arriving fire appliances which is shocking, but a sad state of affairs, and agree it is not solely happening over there but all over the UK.

I have nothing to add here. I just wanted to be the first one to quote the quote which had been quoted in a quote.
Title: Re: Fire station gutted.
Post by: Allen Higginson on August 17, 2009, 12:31:09 PM
God-fearing Retty, No one dislikes the NIFRS enough to burn down their station. Its not London.

I take it you are not familiar with the local hostilities between certain groups in that area and anything that symbolise authority, including the NIFRS. They have tried to burn (petrol bomb) the vehicles on numerous occasions, so the station would be no surprise .
I always find it better to do a little bit of research before posting an "opinion" - electrical fault has been given as most likely cause and it was definately accidental.
Tenders have been targetted (as well as abulance NIAS vehicles) but this has generally occurred during riotous outbreaks etc.
However,this is nothing to do with "local hostilities" but due to a total lack of respect for anything,which isn't unique to over here -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7699134.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/6726989.stm
http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/116105/Gang-attacked-fire-crew-hours-after-hero-s-funeral/


I was just stating that it would not be a surprise if it was deliberate. And for someone who has family in N.Belfast it most is to do with 'local hostilities' from the youth gangs that attack these appliances and the reasons behind it to them is that anything in authority is a target for their aggression (in other words an excuse due to as you say 'lack of respect' and to cause maximum disruption for the gang leaders).

There have been many occasions where deliberate fires have started to ambush the arriving fire appliances which is shocking, but a sad state of affairs, and agree it is not solely happening over there but all over the UK.

I have nothing to add here. I just wanted to be the first one to quote the quote which had been quoted in a quote.
..but not the last!!
Title: Re: Fire station gutted.
Post by: wee brian on August 17, 2009, 01:03:28 PM
respect.