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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => Fire Safety => Topic started by: Mar62 on October 08, 2009, 09:36:12 AM
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Wonder if anyone can answer a question. A customer has asked about petroleum licencing requirements for his car parks (London area). Does anyone have any info regarding this or where the best starting place for info may be? Its not something I have ever delved into.
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Wonder if anyone can answer a question. A customer has asked about petroleum licencing requirements for his car parks (London area). Does anyone have any info regarding this or where the best starting place for info may be? Its not something I have ever delved into.
What is happening in the car parks that is making your customer think about petroleum licencing?
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Hi NT. Nothing unusual as far as is known. From the message I received from him he has to have his licences renewed because of the amount of fuel stored in vehicles. These are underground car parks beneath office buildings. I need to get more info from him I think.
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This came from the old Petroleum consolidation Act 1928 and the Motor Vehicles Regs 1936 . Licences were required due to the quantity of petrol in the vehicles tanks.
I may be wrong but I was under the impression that these licenses had died on the introduction of the DSEAR Regs in 2002. You would be best to check with the petrol licensing authority for the area- the local authority or they may have delegated it to the fire service.
Also be aware that there are some local enactments under the Local Govt Misc Provisions Act 1981 covering car parks and the need for sprinklers in some cases- its very patchy though- very few areas have these particular requirements..
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Thanks for both yr replies. Appreciated. I'll give the LFB a ring and ask the question. Once again - thanks.
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In addition to Kurnel's advice this might also help.
The Petroleum Spirit (Motor Vehicles etc) Regulations 1929 have been modified. As they stood, these regulations allowed the storage of petrol without a licence, if the petrol is contained within the fuel tank of a vehicle – but the tank must be of metal construction. This meant, in theory, that anyone who kept in their garage a plastic demountable fuel tank from their motorboat needs a petrol licence. This anomaly has now been removed.
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Done some web searches and Petroleum Licenses are alive & kicking. however they are now mainly for Petrol filling stations and other sites where Petrol is dispensed into the fuel tanks of Internal combustion engines and also Domestic storage.
Car Parks, Paint stores & similar are covered only by DSEAR & the RRO, and do not require a license.
From Central Beds Council:
Petroleum Licensing is required by retail petrol filling stations and some non retail sites. Generally, petroleum licenses apply only to retail and non retail sites where internal combustion engines are refuelled by mechanical or electronic means
From Warrington Council:
If you store more than 14 litres (3 gallons) of petroleum spirit (petrol) or petroleum mixtures (toluene, paint thinners, etc.) then you will almost certainly need a licence to do so. (There are one or two exceptions to this rule. These relate to storage for use in motor vehicles or other internal combustion engines)
Also:
Trading Standards - Petroleum Licensing Conditions
These revised Standard Licence Conditions have been produced to replace the existing Standard Licence Conditions, which were last revised in 1996. The conditions have been produced by LACORS1 with the intent of promoting the adoption of standard licence conditions by all Petroleum Licensing Authorities.
The revised conditions reflect the significant changes that have resulted from the recent coming into force of the Dangerous Substances & Explosive Atmospheres Regulations 2002 (DSEAR). These new regulations, which are risk assessment based, have effectively removed much of the responsibility for controlling the routine operation of Petrol Filling Stations from the Petroleum Consolidation Act 1928 and therefore the need to retain many of the prescriptive control measures previously contained in Licence Conditions.
It must be stressed that the much-reduced number of licence conditions that now apply does not mean that the responsibilities of licensees and petrol filling station operators have diminished. In fact, in addition to familiarising themselves with these new conditions, it is essential that licensees and site operators make themselves familiar with the new regulations, the associated Approved Codes of Practice which are published by the HSE (Health & Safety Executive) and any further guidance published by HELA (HSE/Local Authority Enforcement Liaison Committee) & LACORS1 in the form of PETELS.
DSEAR does not however apply to non-workplace situations, and Petrol Licensing is still therefore the primary mechanism by which such non-workplace petroleum spirit storage is controlled. These draft new licence conditions are therefore only intended at this stage to address the licensing of Retail and Non-Retail Petrol Filling Stations, where a work activity is undertaken.
(For the rest read http://www.swindon.gov.uk/textV2/business/tstandards-businessinfo/petroleum/tstandards-petroleum-license.htm)