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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => Operational => Topic started by: zeezoo on June 21, 2005, 06:59:47 PM

Title: pay rise
Post by: zeezoo on June 21, 2005, 06:59:47 PM

Are we actually getting a pay rise in July or has everyone forgotten. If anyone knows how much please let us know!!!

Title: pay rise
Post by: dave bev on June 22, 2005, 07:06:25 PM

there is a reason its being delayed - honest!!!


dave bev

Title: pay rise
Post by: messy on June 22, 2005, 08:48:36 PM

Which is.......................................??

Title: pay rise
Post by: colin todd on June 23, 2005, 06:39:40 PM

I got mine alright on 1 June. Should I join a trade union.

Title: pay rise
Post by: wee brian on June 23, 2005, 11:10:57 PM

I should if I were you brother. I've heard that the bloke who runs your firm is a tight fisted Scots g%@!

Title: pay rise
Post by: wee brian on June 23, 2005, 11:12:25 PM

While I think of it, is this really an "operational" post?

I thought this was the area for squirting water and cutting people out of cars etc.

Title: pay rise
Post by: colin todd on June 25, 2005, 01:19:39 AM

Brian, he gave me 3.2%, which I thought was ok. Should I have asked the old duffer for more? As for firefighters ( that's the modern term for them) being water squirters, you are living in the past. Its a skilled profession. Perhaps you are thinking of the days when they carried 4 pennies on the machines to send back the stops via a public telephone.

Title: pay rise
Post by: Anorak on June 26, 2005, 11:27:05 AM

Todd.....Fool!!!!!!

Title: pay rise
Post by: colin todd on June 26, 2005, 02:32:05 PM

Damn, you are right. I should have asked for 4%. I will begin industrial action next week.

Title: pay rise
Post by: wee brian on June 26, 2005, 10:06:50 PM

I appreciate that a firefighter's skills go beyond how to turn the hose on but I wouldn't decribe the July pay rise as an operational matter.

Title: pay rise
Post by: wee brian on June 26, 2005, 10:08:15 PM

Perhaps you could consider a work to rule. Start by working only when the boss does. That'll show him.

Title: pay rise
Post by: dave bev on June 30, 2005, 02:01:07 PM

you should have gone for 3.4% colin, plus a bit more for some to 'sort out differentials'

it seems as good a figure to me as any other i could have made up


dave bev

Title: pay rise
Post by: colin todd on July 01, 2005, 12:31:13 AM

Davey, As the only leftie that I have ever liked or found amusing, I wonder if I could join the Union and have you negotiate with my employer?????

Title: pay rise
Post by: dave bev on July 01, 2005, 09:05:23 AM

on the understanding that it wont prejudice my position in the new order come the day of the revolution, id be pleased to welcome you back to the fold. i say welcome back cos i suspect with your ancestral history your forefathers, or even your fivefathers were indeed of the socialist persuasion!

you may not be able to join the union you hold in high regard against all others though, perhaps an independant union may be the right move - the last time i negotiated with your employer though i ended up buying my own lunch, so im not so sure my skills were as productive as your employer who just waved a slip of paper in the general direction of the cashier! but if you think i could be of any service please forward your personal details, bank account details and passwords along with a full set of house keys to my offshore banking organisation where i will keep them safe and secure it my personal safe deposit box.

dave bev

Title: pay rise
Post by: mindless on July 01, 2005, 05:47:18 PM

A slip of paper you say Dave. I didn't realise they still issued Luncheon Vouchers

Title: pay rise
Post by: dave bev on July 01, 2005, 06:44:04 PM

i think it was a freebie for services rendered - mind you i reckon they'd been had - you should have seen the size of plate he had and the piles of food thereon!!

dave bev

Title: pay rise
Post by: dave bev on July 01, 2005, 06:47:16 PM

pay rise confirmation - what a lucky guess i made! anyone wnat the lottery numbers?

seriously there is a bit more to come for some 'roles' and no i dont know the full detail but its tied into the pay settlement -



CIRCULAR:    2005HOC0352MW





4 July 2005

TO:   ALL MEMBERS



Dear Brother / Sister

FIRE SERVICE PAY SETTLEMENT

The Fire Service Pay & Conditions Agreement 2003 provided that with effect from 1 July 2005, pay would be increased in line with a new pay formula.

The pay formula agreed was as follows :-

The National Joint Council has agreed that the increase derived from the formula is 3.4%, and will apply to all current pay rates.

A further circular giving full details of the pay rates will be issued as soon as possible.

Best wishes.

Yours fraternally
 
MATT WRACK
General Secretary

Title: pay rise
Post by: colin todd on July 01, 2005, 09:31:07 PM

Was Matt the Wrack calling me Brother? Oh yes yes yes. I have died and gone to Heaven.

Title: pay rise
Post by: colin todd on July 01, 2005, 09:38:33 PM

Now that I am a brother, on a point of order mr chairman ( I heard that expression once on the Wheeltappers and Shunters prog on TV), can I just say that the piece of paper entitled me to a starter, main course, desert, drink and a bar of chocolate from the rack (no rack, not Wrack) at the till, Davey. I was merely availing myself of my rights under my contract with the management, as all we brothers do!!!!

Title: pay rise
Post by: dave bev on July 01, 2005, 11:26:43 PM

desert, you ate the whole f.......g oasis!

dave bev

Title: pay rise
Post by: dave bev on July 04, 2005, 07:50:33 PM

ok, full details of pay rise at last - gonna be some happier crew/watch/group and area managers!

http://www.fbu.org.uk/workplace/njc/2005/pdf/joint/njc8.pdf

dave bev