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FIRE SAFETY => Portable Firefighting Equipment => Topic started by: shaunmckeever on February 13, 2012, 07:24:05 AM

Title: Does anyone know about this new extinguisher?
Post by: shaunmckeever on February 13, 2012, 07:24:05 AM
Hi all. I have been asked for my opinion on this patented fire extinguisher to be installed in hotels in the Middle East. I have no knowledge myself but wondered if anyone on here has come across them. You can see the details here:-

www.firekiller.info

I would appreciate any comments.

Thanks
Shaun
Title: Re: Does anyone know about this new extinguisher?
Post by: nearlythere on February 13, 2012, 07:51:21 AM
Never seen nor heard of it before. Impressive claims. Looks handy.
Does it do what is says on the tin?
Title: Re: Does anyone know about this new extinguisher?
Post by: kurnal on February 13, 2012, 08:02:40 AM
Yes but wheres the fire test data? I cant find any?
Title: Re: Does anyone know about this new extinguisher?
Post by: Fishy on February 13, 2012, 09:34:12 AM
Have looked at the videos - seems to be pretty effective with the smaller fires (not sure that there's enough 'throw' to tackle the bigger stuff without getting too close).  No worse than smallish DPs.

However, having watched the videos and read the website, I can't for the life of me work out how it's operated!  Take off the end cap - fine - but then how do you 'ignite' it?  I think you might have to whack the business end with something?  How intuitive is it, I wonder?
Title: Re: Does anyone know about this new extinguisher?
Post by: Mike Buckley on February 13, 2012, 12:39:20 PM
Looks to me as if it is similar to a handheld flare. The cap has a striker in it and you strike this across the top of the tube to ignite whats inside. It then burns like some type of rocket producing a gas.
Title: Re: Does anyone know about this new extinguisher?
Post by: nearlythere on February 13, 2012, 12:47:15 PM
Better info here.
http://www.firealarmsystemsindia.com/fire_killer.htm (http://www.firealarmsystemsindia.com/fire_killer.htm)
Title: Re: Does anyone know about this new extinguisher?
Post by: AnthonyB on February 13, 2012, 11:30:02 PM
It is CE marked, but is little more than an ABC version of the Antifyre Pistole of old.

Fire ratings are pathetic - no model even gets a 3A rating and the Class B ratings are 5, 8 & 13B for the three sizes.

If you want something that is low maintenance, high reliability, get a fire blanket, if you want something that can put out a decent size of fire get a traditional extinguisher (a 600g ABC aerosol powder gives this product a good run for its money)
Title: Re: Does anyone know about this new extinguisher?
Post by: TFEM on February 15, 2012, 09:18:06 PM
The sales blurb also claims suitable for use on Class A, B and C fires as well as electrical use but only has a tiny B rating.
I certainly wouldn't be happy relying on these in my hotel (if I had a hotel of course!)
John
Title: Re: Does anyone know about this new extinguisher?
Post by: fireftrm on March 13, 2012, 07:36:20 AM
It has a 'tiny' B rating because it is such a small charge. Also note that it is potassium, which oxidises readily in air. Yes it will, being dispersed as microscopic particles it will form potassium oxides and peroxides quickly - in effect turning into dry powder instantly. However it could react violently with water, so in a damp atmosphere could cause hydrogen to be given off, so a great use in a very low humidity area, but in the UK......also not great if the area of the fire is damp - see the car engine example, again in the Middle East v Middle England.....Lastly I trust that it is well protected as I am not sure I would want packs of potassium sitting around my premises.