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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => Fire Safety => Topic started by: nearlythere on July 08, 2013, 03:35:58 PM
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What does the panel think of this?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Cooking-Oil-Extinguisher-Sachet-Quicker-and-safer-than-a-fire-blanket-/221243401411?pt=UK_Fire_Extinguishers&hash=item33832264c3
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(http://soteriafire.com/images/images/3kitchenfigure.jpg)
I can see people frantically searching a kitchen for an appropriately long utensil to drop it in the oil.
Probably end up chucking it at the pan or burning their arm by trying to place it in.
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(http://soteriafire.com/images/images/3kitchenfigure.jpg)
I can see people frantically searching a kitchen for an appropriately long utensil to drop it in the oil.
Probably end up chucking it at the pan or burning their arm by trying to place it in.
That's what I thought first Piggy but then if it is a good product why could it not have been designed with a long holder so as to be ever ready.
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Note no claims of compliance or evidence of fire testing, no apparent CE marking. I expect its full of a bicarb solution?
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I could buy a 600ml Wet Chemical extinguisher at retail price for that price (or less) and stay safely away to extinguisher the fire.
It's cheaper and probably similarly as effective to just keep a tub of baking soda handy to pour on!
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Not enough information to pass comment. Probably geared to a lesser amount of oil in a wok than a fat fryer. ;)
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Hello Gentlemen,
I see that you have some questions regarding our Cooking Oil Sachet.
We are sole UK distributors for these products and I shall try to answer any questions that you may have. If I can't answer any questions directly, I shall ask the inventor for you.
In reply to some of the comments already made:
Piglet & Nearlythere
Most people already have a long-handled spatula/ slotted spoon or tongs handy when they are cooking with oil. If the product was made with a long handle already attached (and it was initially considered), it would look less aesthetically pleasing than a fire blanket; and research has shown that most UK households do not have a fire blanket hung next to their cooker because it looks ugly. This little sachet and it's holder is only 16cm long and 6cm wide, so doesn't look out of place on the front of a fridge or cupboard. It is also easier to use than a fire blanket as it is just gently placed in the pan.
Lancsfirepro
This product is aimed at the home/ caravan/ boat market, not a commercial food premises; therefore, yes it is geared to a smaller amount of oil. Each sachet will easily extinguish a fire in up to 300ml of cooking oil and a pan of up to 12 inches (30cm) diameter. R&D is currently underway on a commercial version and I shall let you know when it is available.
AnthonyB
You could buy a 600ml Wet Chem extg for a similar cost; however most aerosol wet chem extg's create such a mess when initially fired onto the cooker by a non-trained person as they often miss. This is placed directly in the pan and cannot spill until it is in there, thus ensuring that the only mess is in the pan that the fire was in. The pan can then even be reused after thorough cleaning. All the chemicals involved are non-hazardous and environmentally-friendly.
Kurnal
This is not just a bicarb solution.
The product does not require to be CE marked.
It has already passed various International Standards, such as Kofeis and Sirim. We are currently in the process of investigating the British equivalent; however it obviously does not fall under BSEN3, BS6165 or even BS7937, (or so I am reliably informed from the powers that be)!
The product complies with OECD Criteria (648/2004) and is classified as non-hazardous according to REACH 1999/45/EC, so all perfectly safe.
I know some people will dismiss these new innovative products and try to rubbish them because they are not traditional extinguishers and some people just don't like change or technological advancement.
These really are effective, simple to use products. Some of the UK Fire and Rescue Service Officers have seen the product, fully approve of them and are on-board with getting these products out there. (They even have them in their own homes!)
If you would like to see the videos of this product in action, along with our Throwable Extinguisher, please pop along to our YouTube page:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8N1Bw8NJcaZ6LmtoJ22cBQ (http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8N1Bw8NJcaZ6LmtoJ22cBQ)
Please let me know if you have any more queries.
:)
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Hello Gentlemen,
I see that you have some questions regarding our Cooking Oil Sachet.
We are sole UK distributors for these products and I shall try to answer any questions that you may have. If I can't answer any questions directly, I shall ask the inventor for you.
In reply to some of the comments already made:
Piglet & Nearlythere
Most people already have a long-handled spatula/ slotted spoon or tongs handy when they are cooking with oil. If the product was made with a long handle already attached (and it was initially considered), it would look less aesthetically pleasing than a fire blanket; and research has shown that most UK households do not have a fire blanket hung next to their cooker because it looks ugly. This little sachet and it's holder is only 16cm long and 6cm wide, so doesn't look out of place on the front of a fridge or cupboard. It is also easier to use than a fire blanket as it is just gently placed in the pan.
Lancsfirepro
This product is aimed at the home/ caravan/ boat market, not a commercial food premises; therefore, yes it is geared to a smaller amount of oil. Each sachet will easily extinguish a fire in up to 300ml of cooking oil and a pan of up to 12 inches (30cm) diameter. R&D is currently underway on a commercial version and I shall let you know when it is available.
AnthonyB
You could buy a 600ml Wet Chem extg for a similar cost; however most aerosol wet chem extg's create such a mess when initially fired onto the cooker by a non-trained person as they often miss. This is placed directly in the pan and cannot spill until it is in there, thus ensuring that the only mess is in the pan that the fire was in. The pan can then even be reused after thorough cleaning. All the chemicals involved are non-hazardous and environmentally-friendly.
Kurnal
This is not just a bicarb solution.
The product does not require to be CE marked.
It has already passed various International Standards, such as Kofeis and Sirim. We are currently in the process of investigating the British equivalent; however it obviously does not fall under BSEN3, BS6165 or even BS7937, (or so I am reliably informed from the powers that be)!
The product complies with OECD Criteria (648/2004) and is classified as non-hazardous according to REACH 1999/45/EC, so all perfectly safe.
I know some people will dismiss these new innovative products and try to rubbish them because they are not traditional extinguishers and some people just don't like change or technological advancement.
These really are effective, simple to use products. Some of the UK Fire and Rescue Service Officers have seen the product, fully approve of them and are on-board with getting these products out there. (They even have them in their own homes!)
If you would like to see the videos of this product in action, along with our Throwable Extinguisher, please pop along to our YouTube page:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8N1Bw8NJcaZ6LmtoJ22cBQ (http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8N1Bw8NJcaZ6LmtoJ22cBQ)
Please let me know if you have any more queries.
:)
I am impressed Blazetech with what it does but I have given many fire safety talks in my time and mostly to females and I can assure you it is very unlikely they will use a fire blanket on a fire and I can't see them using a sachet this way either. But, as I say, I am impressed. The commercial one will be of interest to many.
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Thanks, Nearlythere.
We are glad that you are impressed with the sachet.
I believe that, due to it's simplicity, the Cooking Oil Extinguisher Sachet is more likely to be used instead of a fire blanket. If fire blankets are not being widely used, we have to come up with alternatives that make it simpler to protect life/property, especially with the cuts being made to F&R Services across the UK.
We shall keep you informed of any future developments with the commercial version.