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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => Fire Safety => Topic started by: John Carlsson on August 17, 2005, 08:24:03 AM
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Ladies and Gents
I have been doing quite a bit of work with a few fire brigades and have had tremendous responses.
I currently have a fire detector that is impervious to all non combustibles and is a true false alarm management detector.
It is capable of distinguishing between
Steam
Dust
Thrips
Aerosol spray
Hair spray
Etc
It has just won the Fire Industry Federation Product Innovation Award,
I consider this to be the most advanced commercial detector on the market.
You may be able to see why it is gaining so much interest within the fire detection field, especially as you are now targeted to reduce false alarms.
My email is john@problematique.wanadoo.co.uk should you wish to discuss this further, or for me to sent technical information to you
Thanks
John Carlsson Dms
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Was that the exact wording of the award?????????????
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Was that the exact wording of the award?????????????
It was the Fire Industry Federation. Product innovation award
http://www.esi-network.co.uk/flashnews.asp
Should you wish to see for yourself?
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John: Congratulations on the award.
Can you tell me (out of interest) how much more expensive would one of your systems be compared to conventional systems?
Yes I know it's a ridiculously difficult/hypothetical question to answer (especially as you are trying to market the product) but unless the costs are comparable, I can't see many persistant faslse alarm offenders (OPHs and Hospitals) affording it, however welcome such a product would be.
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Yes, I know it was- I was one of the judges. I just did not recall the award saying it was impervious to all non combustibles (whatever that might mean), that it is a true false alarm management detector or that it was the most advanced detector on the market, though I do agree that it is clever.
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I think ADT also do something along the same lines. They have a head that you can programme to emulate heat / smoke or CO2.
Now I'm only passing on second hand info as an Engineer told me about this, so it may well be inaccurate.
Worth a look though
Paul
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Shame that ADT cannot manage to service my intruder alarm system properly. I sit here awaiting a call (probably in vain) from their service people to tell me when they are coming to fix the mess-up of the system their so-called engineer made when he did the so called service this week.
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Our Algorex system uses algorhtmns (I hate spelling that!!) which guarantees no false alarms.Haven't seen the demonstration at Moreton but apparantly it will ignore particular types of smoke and activate when you introduce another while the first is still present.Never used it myself but sounds good in theory!!
With regard to the ADT head it's a combined CO/heat detector that you can program into day or night mode - have used it in nightclubs for obvious reasons!!
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Oh dear, not happy then Colin??
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Nope. Still no call and the gorilla who serviced the system left it such that a personal attack alarm will send a reset signal, while a reset signal will send a personal attack signal. But apparently ADT do not think this is worthy of their concern. Any alarm companies out there want to take over monitoring and maintenance of an (ex) ADT fire alarm system and an (ex ) ADT security system?????
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Not good publicity for the ADT boys!!
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I am now open to reoommendations as I do not know the intruder companies all that well. To whom should I now go for maintenance and monitoring of both the fire and intruder systems.
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You are a bit far from me otherwise i would have helped you out.
Don't fancy a call out that far
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Colin,
I always think that for the likes of me and you, the best option is to use a smaller local reputable company. With the likes of the large Companies such ADT, Initial, etc etc, the personal service is lost to their big customers. The ones who spend thousands on software upgrades and think nothing of having 4 engineers on site full time.
We are mere tadpoles in a pool of hungry ducks!!
I’m sure you know of a good local company.
Paul
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Four hour response could prove difficult, Graeme. Any suggestions as to any good intruder companies who can do maintenance of a very simple conventional AFd system as well as intruder and can offer monitoring of both?
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not familiar with any companies else where but i would advise not going with a National ,go smaller and get a better service if it is a domestic or small property.
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Paul, Funnily enough I dont! And dont believe for a minute that the large corporate customers get any better service!
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Is the ADT intruder system a Galaxy Colin?
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I know Colin,
I have many examples!! And never fail to be surprised.
I guess the point here is the loss of personal service with the big boys on every level.
Having said that the big boys seem to be very keen when it comes to providing new and Unnecessary equipment.
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No its an ancient old Modern CPC keyswitch type. (you know what a luddite I am.)
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you should be able to have another company take it on ok then,same if the fire is non-addressable
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Yes, it is merely a matter of who!
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I will try and get someone to get in the Surrey area to get in touch if that is ok.
Member of another forum which mainly is securty and there is bound to be a few from there.
let me know.
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Yes please, so long as they are good, know what they are doing, and dont have a call centre with couldn't care less staff. Thanks Graeme.
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no problem.I will see what i can do.
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Colin
Had some dealings with Chevron who are localish to you in Egham. Might be worth giving them a call
01784 438822
64 Station Road, Egham, Surrey, TW20 9LF
www.chevronalarms.com
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Thanks Messey. Still enjoying fire safety?
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Colin
have been given a few names in your area.Can you e-mail me your location and so i can get a definitive list.
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Graeme, In the posting above, click on website and you will see it immediately. And many thanks.