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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => Fire Safety => Topic started by: lingmoor on November 12, 2014, 11:15:09 AM

Title: Travel distance
Post by: lingmoor on November 12, 2014, 11:15:09 AM

Hi

The last time I worked  in entertainment licencing they were issued by building control

Can anyone tell me is it necessary for two-way travel in a pub that requires an entertainment licence? or is the same as everywhere else and as long as they meet the travel distances for for one-way travel ..in this case for assembly and recreation.. then thats ok

Cheers

Title: Re: Travel distance
Post by: kurnal on November 12, 2014, 07:39:52 PM

is this in England and Wales?

Title: Re: Travel distance
Post by: lingmoor on November 12, 2014, 07:47:46 PM

Yes Kurnal

I remember from my days in licensing, it was limited to 60 people for one way travel, same for an inward opening door...just wondering if it's the same now

Title: Re: Travel distance
Post by: kurnal on November 12, 2014, 09:03:35 PM

Yes single escape routes are permissible, the Fire safety Order Guidance for places of assembly sets out recommended travel distances for locations where only a single escape route is provided, linked to the level of risk. See table 2 page 73 in the guidance. This guidance is intended for existing buildings, but mirrors the recommendations in the ADB for new buildings.

Title: Re: Travel distance
Post by: lingmoor on November 13, 2014, 11:38:46 AM

Thanks Kurnal, you confirmed my thoughts...

on another note and without bothering to start yet another a new thread by lingmoor!

I went in an Aussie bar (in England) the other week and the actual bar was inside a burger van type thing,  the disgusting lager being served through the front hatch

I was with a couple of ancient ex-fireys (like me) and one of them asked the highly technical question, 'was this classed as an inner room?'...to me it was just like any other bar...admittedly having a burger van bar in a pub isn't 'like any other bar' (I presume it didn't have petrol in the tank!)  ;)

it isn't...is it?

                        

Title: Re: Travel distance
Post by: kurnal on November 13, 2014, 07:00:18 PM

I would have thought it was an inner van.

Can you tell me the way to Cockfosters?

Yes brew it in England. 

And yes technically it would be an inner room.

Title: Re: Travel distance
Post by: idlefire on November 13, 2014, 10:22:59 PM

Technically, if the van has a vehicle excise license the FSO wouldn't apply anyway, by virtue of Article 6(e), otherwise of course it would be an inner room.  Eitherway, one would assume good vision into the "access room" so where's the problem?

Title: Re: Travel distance
Post by: lingmoor on November 14, 2014, 09:03:09 PM

There isnt a proble idle... apart from selling sh*t lager from it