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THE REGULATORY REFORM (FIRE SAFETY) ORDER 2005 => Q & A => Topic started by: Tadees on January 21, 2015, 11:22:32 AM

Title: Hard wired smoke detector in flat lobby & false alarms
Post by: Tadees on January 21, 2015, 11:22:32 AM: A small lobby in a flat has a hard wired smoke detector. Off the lobby is living room and kitchen. Tenant has removed the battery because cooking sets of detector. The dimwit does not want to close the door when cooking. I feel uncomfortable changing it to a heat detector and resiting in such a small area will not make any difference.

Can these standard detectors that they install in flat lobbies be changed to multi sensor or do they have the capacity to have their sensitivity adjusted?
Title: Re: Hard wired smoke detector in flat lobby & false alarms
Post by: Owain on January 21, 2015, 07:36:28 PM: Quote from: Tadees on January 21, 2015, 11:22:32 AM
A small lobby in a flat has a hard wired smoke detector. Off the lobby is living room and kitchen. Tenant has removed the battery because cooking sets of detector. The dimwit does not want to close the door when cooking. I feel uncomfortable changing it to a heat detector and resiting in such a small area will not make any difference.

Can these standard detectors that they install in flat lobbies be changed to multi sensor or do they have the capacity to have their sensitivity adjusted?

If it's a standalone type smoke alarm then they can't be adjusted.

An extraction hood over the cooker may reduce stray smoke to undetectable levels, but ultimately it's a tenant management problem not a premises problem. If tenant is disabling the landlord's detector then this is criminal damage and will also probably place the property in breach of HHSRS under Housing Act 2004. Not having a working smoke detector may also invalidate the landlord's insurance.
Title: Re: Hard wired smoke detector in flat lobby & false alarms
Post by: wee brian on February 10, 2015, 09:16:52 AM: Might be old and dirty, or maybe an Ion. Try getting a new optical.
Title: Re: Hard wired smoke detector in flat lobby & false alarms
Post by: colin todd on February 13, 2015, 06:43:21 PM: What's wrong with old and dirty? it describes well many members of the Government you serve.
Title: Re: Hard wired smoke detector in flat lobby & false alarms
Post by: wee brian on February 16, 2015, 11:03:09 AM: I think it describes most governments.
Title: Re: Hard wired smoke detector in flat lobby & false alarms
Post by: colin todd on February 16, 2015, 11:55:54 PM: You wait until you work for Eddie.
Title: Re: Hard wired smoke detector in flat lobby & false alarms
Post by: Clevelandfire 3 on February 17, 2015, 10:20:06 AM: Might even be Nicola or Nige
Title: Re: Hard wired smoke detector in flat lobby & false alarms
Post by: colin todd on February 20, 2015, 12:15:23 AM: Nicola sent me a valentine card cos I am a party member.
Title: Re: Hard wired smoke detector in flat lobby & false alarms
Post by: Clevelandfire 3 on February 20, 2015, 11:06:18 AM: Keeping quiet about the one from Nige then Col
Title: Re: Hard wired smoke detector in flat lobby & false alarms
Post by: Fishy on February 20, 2015, 11:29:06 AM: Multi sensors wouldn't necessarily help, anyway. Depends how they're designed & set up. Many only use the heat element to vary the sensitivity by ~1% or so.