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FIRE SAFETY => Fire Alarm Systems => Topic started by: bevfs on February 02, 2015, 12:20:17 PM
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HI all,
is there any automatic detection on the market suitable for siting in bathroom/shower rooms?
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Would this be domestic bathrooms or hotel?
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if commercial carbon monoxide fire detector linked into existing fire alarm (this is not the same as a carbon monoxide gas alarm)
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I am intrigued why AFD would be necessary in a shower room?
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I am intrigued why AFD would be necessary in a shower room?
I was thinking the same thing?
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I am intrigued why AFD would be necessary in a shower room?
I was thinking the same thing?
And me.
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It might be that there is a risk in there like an airing cupboard?
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People put sprinklers in water cooling towers.
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I have come across fully sprinklered swimming pools!
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Many years ago, the swimming pool at Winchester sports centre was more or less destroyed by fire. The staff operated a MCP, which sent an autodialler message to the FRS. Even in those days, the PDA was downgraded to one appliance as it was an unconfirmed AFA. As I recall, the staff did not confirm it as they knew it went through automatically. Eventually, they did phone the FRS to ask if they were coming, at which point the attendance was upgraded.
How many morals are there in that story.
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I wasn't referring to the building the swimming pool was in, I was referring to the actual swimming pool and the tiled area immediately surrounding it.
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I'm not sure that a CO sensor would be a good shout. My recollection was that they dont like being damp.
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sorry The shower room is of the main means of escape for a (1930 s built converted in the 1980's) hostel/hotel premises and the ceiling of the shower room is leading up to the 3rd floor and 2 further bedrooms.Shower room contains electrical domestic shower type unit,and domestic electrical vent fan on wall at point close to ceiling..General workmanship is poor to fair throughout this area.Following bs5839 requires cat L1 OR L2(I know as guidance)but it is a standard which one should look to follow
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old wives tale about them not like being damp
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I have heard it said that Clevey knows an awful lot of old wives. My wife is quite old but I don't recollect hearing her mention it though.
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Only quite old, Big Al. Did you marry a much younger woman then?
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Yes she was much younger when we married. She has aged somewhat since.
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I wonder how many of us would see an electric shower and fan as sufficient risk to warrant AFD? There are many fires each year involving fans but every toilet has a fan and most WCS don't have AFD. Electric showers are an ignition source but is there any combustible fuel in the room? It sounds a little marginal to me.
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It sounds a little marginal to me.
....your honour
Depends. I'd be more worried about toilets used by members of he pleblic in things like areas of assembly, licensed premises etc where alcohol fuelled behaviour or arson will be more prolific
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I would agree that the risk in the shower room may not warrant detection, however it was stated that this was a means of escape from the rest of the building and even a L3 system under 5839 would require detection. However I am curious as to how a shower room became a means of escape or vice versa. It would also raise the question of how privacy is maintained whilst still keeping the means of escape readily available. (or is everybody very friendly?)