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AVIATION => Operational => Topic started by: Guest on January 08, 2004, 02:08:05 PM
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any info out there on how to transfer to a airport ff from a local authority ff ,would it help to pay my own way at the CAA tng school?
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Hi, I am in the Airport Fire Service and a Retained FF for my local Brigade, the two types of fire fighting are very different. Your bread and butter stuff is still the same, ladder work, cutting equipment and so on, but as for fire fighting it is technically different. I do not know about transferring from whole time into the Airport fire service, I would imagine you would have to go through your basic training. Why not contact the airport you are looking at going into, speak to the station officer and see what he/she says, you can only ask. :rolleyes:
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We've just had one of our blokes go in the opposite direction.Hes gone from airport firefighting to wholetime local authority.He had to do all the conversion work on his station for 4 weeks,but as hed already done a basic course,which at 14 weeks covered all the local authority criteria,(ba,rta etc)
Im assuming that if you apply direct to the airport your thinking of joining,they'll be able to give you all the info you require.
Ian
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You can unfortunately pay for your own course at CAA training school or at teeside you have to meet certain criteria - Bizzarley one point ot bear in mind is that to do your ccompetence first level training you should have been an airport firefighter for i thik it is 6 months
Its ludicrous
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That should be YOU CAN'T PAY for your own course etc etc Sorry folks!
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I have transferred both ways i went from LA to Airport for four years, had to do all the training for the airport even though i had done the 16 week recruits course, and had the Lff ticket. Then i decided to go back but to a different brigade and had to do the 16 weeks again even though i had my grads,BAI, and some other stuff. That was 10 years ago now I am sure the situation would be the same, you would have to do the training for the airport, which i am sure you ll enjoy and i wouldnt think youll find to difficult as most of the stuff is the same. I would encourage you if that is what you want to do but remember it is different in many ways and can be quite quiet,but still a very good jobs. I hope this helps all the best
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where abouts are you because we're looking to recruit firefighters at our airport (cat 06 station) in the surrey/hampshire area
if interested give me an e-mail and i'll pass on your details to my fire service manager
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i was just wondering, did anybody in here do there training at teeside, and what does it consist of as i have to carry out my training there. does it benifit you any for the original fire service? thanks
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i was just wondering, did anybody in here do there training at teeside, and what does it consist of as i have to carry out my training there. does it benifit you any for the original fire service? thanks
You can download all of the course programmes plus all the relevant training notes as there are some slight differences between Local Authority and Aviation drills
web site is www.iftc.co.uk
Good Luck
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thanks john
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We've just had one of our blokes go in the opposite direction.Hes gone from airport firefighting to wholetime local authority.He had to do all the conversion work on his station for 4 weeks,but as hed already done a basic course,which at 14 weeks covered all the local authority criteria,(ba,rta etc)
Im assuming that if you apply direct to the airport your thinking of joining,they'll be able to give you all the info you require.
Ian
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Hiya can the person who posted this please contact me as i am interested in doing what your friend has done.
I would like to go from the Defence Fire Service to Local Authority and I would like to know how to go about it.
Sorry for hijacking the thread but any help would be very helpful.
Thank you.
RL
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RLFACTOR
Don't know if they'll let you transfer so easily ? But when IPDS starts FSCTE say that moves will be "possible" - but i'll only believe it when it happens !
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Why on earth would you want to transfer from local authority to an airport??
I am in my 10th year at one of the major south east airports and havent seen or done ANYTHING!!! A handfull of RTC`s which hardly involved even sweeping up, one car fire, false AFA`s and............hundreds of micky mouse first aid calls!! Nothing that really counts as fire fighting!
If you want to be a fire fighter then stay local authority wholetime, if you want to spend you`re working life wishing you were (or playing at being) a fire fighter then go for an airport!!
Local authority brigades do not recognise airport fire fighters so if you want to go local authority whole time and are a serving airport FF then you will have to go through the whole application the same as everyone else.
Some of the airport FF`s are local authority retained FF`s as well but i dont think it counts for much when applying to get in.
Like I said, if you want to be a fire fighter in the true sense of the word then go the local authority route, if you want to spend your working life playing at it then go for an airport.
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Why on earth would you want to transfer from local authority to an airport??
Emm, money? Fighting fires and playing Londons burning doesn't pay the bills. ;)
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lfbullit
Just like every other firefighter the length and breadth of the Uk, you never know what each new day will bring.
There are many firefighters who have gone into work at an airport intending to 'play' firefighters, then found themselves giving a statement to the AAIB a couple of hours later. And there are many local authority ff's who go into work each shift and never turn a wheel.
Who is displaying the most professionalism? The FF who goes into work each shift, knowing there is a great chance they will never put their skills into practise, but still putting their heart into the training and work. Or the FF who knows confidently that they will be challenged and worked on many an occassion?
And isn't firefighting all about prevention nowadays? ;)
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Ifbullit
Why are you still in the AFS if you think like that, is it because your stuck on the bottom rung of the ladder with no chance of going up? or are you wishing you were a firefighter but know you wouldnt make the grade
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Why on earth would you want to transfer from local authority to an airport??
Emm, money? Fighting fires and playing Londons burning doesn't pay the bills. ;)
If you want to earn good money then get a well paid job!! Most peole want to be a FF because its what THEY WANT TO DO, the salary doesnt come into it!!
As you so righly pointed out, fighting fires doesnt pay the bills but we still sign up to do the job. Personally I would rather be operationally busy with X amount of calls a day or night rather than going from one month to the next never getting anything!!
Yes the money at an airport is better but the trade off is that you wont get the calls!! Each to their own.......as for me, im the wrong side of 40, got a mortgage, kids to look after etc so its to late to change.
A word of advise to anyone thinking of entering the AFS, find out how busy they are at your intended location, speak to the FF`s at the station to get an honest idea,then be honest with yourself.
The choice is a reasonable salary but not many "fire fighting" calls, or a busy local authority station, job satisfaction but a reduced salary!
I know guys in the AFS who have left or have applied (but failed) to get into local authority but have not heard of any who has gone the other way round!! Indeed, the L.A. FF`s who I have met wouldnt entertain the AFS, despite the salary increase, due to the fact that they would never get the same calls or level of job satisfaction that they currently enjoy.
Lets be honest, the two jobs,whilst coming under the same banner, are vastly different. Something that should be borne in mind by anyone looking for a transfer.
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Well just for your info lfbullit,
My airport has 5 guys who have came from the LAFB. One of them an ex WM (who is earning more as an AFS FF)
We have lost 1 FF going the other way.
Most i have spoken to are demoralised with the LAFB. Its all well and good being busy, but if all you are getting is AFA's it becomes a tad tedious. Not to mention the NFPS.
If you stay in the AFS, get your head down and don't whinge, you can be a big fish in a small pool and get lots out of it. If you sit and moan about how bad it is, it will only seem worse.
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If you want to earn good money then get a well paid job!!
I have a well paid job, thats why I became AFS granted I'll never be a millionaire but I still get 42k as a Lff
Most peolpe want to be a FF because its what THEY WANT TO DO
Correct, I've been in the job 18 years now and would not dream of doing any other. Personally I tend to stay off the domestic pump as I have never wanted to be a LA fire fighter, I like crash rescue. We have to remember also that not all full time LA stations are busy.
Yes the money at an airport is better but the trade off is that you wont get the calls!! Each to their own.......as for me, im the wrong side of 40, got a mortgage, kids to look after etc so its to late to change.
No it's not, we just had a WM transfer to Kent, age mid forties.
if you want to spend your working life playing at it then go for an airport.
That scares the bejesus out of me, you say you have been in the job 10 years yet you still don't get it, we are not domestic fire fighters, we are there for the long black strip and the aircraft, period, any other fire fighting is just a side note to lessen disruption to the business. So here I will agree that if you want Londons burning style of job (and we all know what a load of cr@p that was) then yes go for LA.
Indeed, the L.A. FF`s who I have met wouldnt entertain the AFS
We train with Berkshire and believe me there is a lot of guys who fancy joining the AFS along with other guys from London who we work with at times.
A word of advise to anyone thinking of entering the AFS, find out how busy they are at your intended location
I do agree, but you should do that with anywhere you are going for a job.
Lets be honest, the two jobs,whilst coming under the same banner, are vastly different. Something that should be borne in mind by anyone looking for a transfer.
Couldn't agree more and that's what people have to remember.
It sounds like you are disillusioned with the job and I hope one day you will find happiness at work.
Good luck