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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => Fire Safety => Topic started by: Dinnertime Dave on August 14, 2017, 07:32:58 PM

Title: Evacuation chairs in extra care scheme.
Post by: Dinnertime Dave on August 14, 2017, 07:32:58 PM
We own a number of extra care schemes that are operated by another company. Today we've both received a Notification of Fire Safety Deficiencies from a fire officer stating that evacuation chairs and training to staff to facilitate vertical evacuation should be provided. Should be an interesting first week back form my holidays.

Thoughts anyone?  

Title: Re: Evacuation chairs in extra care scheme.
Post by: colin todd on August 14, 2017, 11:09:45 PM
Go back on holiday?
Title: Re: Evacuation chairs in extra care scheme.
Post by: nearlythere on August 15, 2017, 04:20:26 PM
The F&R Service requires your client to provide Evac Chairs or that they should be provided? Is the IO on commission from Evac Chairs Ltd? Did he do a quick PEEPS to come up with this solution?
World is going cuckoo.
Title: Re: Evacuation chairs in extra care scheme.
Post by: Owain on August 15, 2017, 05:23:46 PM
1. Buy an evac chair.

2. Show all the staff a video on Youtube.

3. Get the staff to sign a form saying they've been trained.

If time or money is short, omit 1. and 2.

One evac chair should be sufficient for multiple premises provided you can drive between them more quickly than the fire officer.

Alternative option is to repurpose fire door closers into mechanisms that drop sheets of polished steel over the stairs, converting them all to emergency escape slides.

I'm not being completely serious by the way.
Title: Re: Evacuation chairs in extra care scheme.
Post by: Fire Monkey on August 16, 2017, 11:56:09 AM
I know of a building that has internal escape slide (no longer in use). I tried it - great fun but less so than sliding down a fireman's pole. :o

Title: Re: Evacuation chairs in extra care scheme.
Post by: Owain on August 16, 2017, 03:32:03 PM
Some here

http://www.assured-ltd.co.uk/blog/top-10-unusual-fire-escape-systems/

I see my slide-over-the-stairs idea has already been tried.
Title: Re: Evacuation chairs in extra care scheme.
Post by: nearlythere on August 16, 2017, 03:37:40 PM
1. Buy an evac chair.

2. Show all the staff a video on Youtube.

3. Get the staff to sign a form saying they've been trained.

If time or money is short, omit 1. and 2.

One evac chair should be sufficient for multiple premises provided you can drive between them more quickly than the fire officer.

Alternative option is to repurpose fire door closers into mechanisms that drop sheets of polished steel over the stairs, converting them all to emergency escape slides.

I'm not being completely serious by the way.
Think you might have something there Owain.
Title: Re: Evacuation chairs in extra care scheme.
Post by: Fishy on August 16, 2017, 08:57:23 PM
Some here

http://www.assured-ltd.co.uk/blog/top-10-unusual-fire-escape-systems/

I see my slide-over-the-stairs idea has already been tried.

I'm personally convinced that one day we'll look back on the practice of precariously swaying people down stairs using a contraption made of bent steel and cloth as ridiculous too...
Title: Re: Evacuation chairs in extra care scheme.
Post by: Owain on August 17, 2017, 08:30:37 AM
I'm personally convinced that one day we'll look back on the practice of precariously swaying people down stairs using a contraption made of bent steel and cloth as ridiculous too...

Yeah, fire escapes in the future will be jump out of the window and descend slowly in a column of force field surrounding the building. As long as you've got your contactless credit card handy for payment to Microsoft Force on the way down, and don't meet your Amazon delivery on its way up.
Title: Re: Evacuation chairs in extra care scheme.
Post by: Fishy on August 17, 2017, 09:44:28 AM
Microsoft will have been taken over by then.  It'll be "Google Gravity", "Instadrop" or "Apple iFall" that we'll using...
Title: Re: Evacuation chairs in extra care scheme.
Post by: Bill J on August 17, 2017, 11:26:36 AM
Microsoft will have been taken over by then.  It'll be "Google Gravity", "Instadrop" or "Apple iFall" that we'll using...

So that will be all of that Windows Surfing I keep hearing so much about, now I understand why they keep telling me that my Firewall is keeping me secure  with unwanted alarm activity, I wish now I had paid a bit more for the net protection, as I like a soft landing!