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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => Fire Safety => Topic started by: colin todd on November 26, 2005, 01:22:33 AM
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We are seeking further consultants to join the team. Much of the work of the two new consultants who we hope to recruit will involve carrying out fire risk assessments, but also giving general fire safety advice. Typically, the new recruits would have substantial experience in fire safety (eg 8-10 years continuous and recent) within a fire and rescue service. ADO level preferred but good station officers also a possibility. We hope that one of the new consultants will live in the home counties, for ease of striking distance to London, but their experience should have been gained outside LFEPA. Any bright ideas or interest, please contact me.
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How much will you be paying the successful lucky persons?
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, but their experience should have been gained outside LFEPA. .
Colin,
Why is this? Do you have a low opinion of all LFB fire safety officers?
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Glad to see that Colin now has principle's. Noting his title. We have one or two Principal Officers, but none as yet have been able to fully demonstrate their Principles. I would love to know what the test is and again how the rest of us can apply, never mind any work with his lofty company.
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Ranks (Principle Member and Senior Member) are based on the number of posts each member has made. Of course, with all rules, bribery and flattery of the Forum Admin could have an influence too.
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Chris, It depends a lot on experience and qualifications. I know that sounds a bit vague, but it is the truth!!!Steve, It is simply company policy regarding the nature of the experience and training that we are looking for. It has nothing to do with the opinion about people as individuals. Firey, As you will see, the title (albeit with a spelling error) is automatically awarded (if that is the right term), which is why you are automatically shown as senior, which you probably thought was based on your age. And the company does not work out a loft; it is on a ground floor.
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Chris and Colin - this was a tongue in cheek comment at the spelling error. It is a common mistake by people to see principles in their principals. I was quite aware of the means by which one becomes senior, or principAL. I was just unsure upon the demonstrations I needed to be deemed pricipLED!
Colin glad to see you have an easy escape in case of fire then!
Chris, I am far too principled to offer a bribe!
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. We hope that one of the new consultants will live in the home counties, for ease of striking distance to London, but their experience should have been gained outside LFEPA. .
I live in a home county outside of the LFPA area, and have good amount of striking experience in London. Could we come to a compromise??
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Nice one :)
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Colin, have you ever considered using associates from other areas of the country to reduce costs?
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We already have full time PAYE employees in different areas of the country, but there is no way we could control quality of as and when type sub-contractors, nor would we want to spend our time and money with the CPD, technical development, etc of people who are not employees. It just would not work for us, but thanks for the thought.
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Colin,
Would you consider applicants in other areas of the Country or is it purley due to the work load within the M25 area?
Paul
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Chris,
What is the cut off point at which you become a senior member??
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Chris,
What is the cut off point at which you become a senior member??
you have to be good looking. That's how i got my status.
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Oh well,
Then I will remain at member status until after the surgery. Then you'd better look out Colin !!
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don't go for the chop Paul. I reckon Colin would see through the wig and deep voice.
A bit of Brut and a hair cut will do nicely.
G.
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We would consider other parts of country but we have a need for at least one of the new people to be in the south.
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Colin
I think you may be excluding some potentially very good consultants by not accepting those who have gained their experience principally through LFEPA. It's a bit like saying all Scots are exceptionally careful with their money. You can't tar everyone with the same brush.
I think there are many ex LFEPA staff who recognise their shortcomings and are very willing to learn.
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needless to say I do a fair amount of work north of the border and I have yet to have Lunch bought for me, Although I am due to go back before xmas, so you never know!!
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Shaun, We dont have time for them to learn. They will be required to do CPD, but that is to keep up to date. We need people able to hit the ground running, and who have received suitable training and experience. One may not be able to say that all Scots are mean (though trust me, we are!), but one may comment on the nature of the Scottish education system (which as you know is better than that in England).
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needless to say I do a fair amount of work north of the border and I have yet to have Lunch bought for me, Although I am due to go back before xmas, so you never know!!
give me a shout. i will treat you to a haggis supper and a can of Irn Bru.
never let it be said i'm tight.
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I would would agree with both your points there Colin, and to be honest I would prefere I chose where we buy lunch from just incase I'm made to eat a 'pizza suppa' again..........very nice, and healthy to boot!!
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Will be in Glasgow Graeme, not sure of date yet, but will be up there in Dec / Feb with a couple of visits to Aberdeen too.
You live near either of these??
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Graeme, I will be at the (real) fire service college presenting a fire risk assessment course in December for 3 days. Want to buy me a drink in the fleshpots of Gullane, or we could go mad and go to North Berwick.
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Sorry Paul i'm near Edinburgh,don't do much in Glasgow apart from help out the access control crew sometimes.Let me know if you are ever in Town.
Colin-let me know dates and i will pop up.
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The course runs 14, 15 and 16 December. We normally drink with the delegates in Gullane or North Berwick.
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The Scottish Education system may be better but who would know? Nobody can understand the language.
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It does work both ways though Shaun. I can assure you, if you try giving a presentation to an audience in Glasgow, the guys there appear to have the same problem with my perfectly spoken Mancunian.
P
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Graeme, Let me know when your in Glasgow as I do fair amount up there.
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will do.