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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => Fire Safety => Topic started by: jasper on November 29, 2005, 09:33:40 AM
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Anyone Know of any decent cpd courses in the fire risk assessment field (not too giddy price wise)
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We do a one day course on behalf of BSI and a similar course on behalf of MId Career College. We also have a 3.5 day examinable course, which is IFE approved for the purpose of fast tracking people onto their Register of Fire Risk Assessors and Auditors. Many of the courses are run in-house for fire and rescue services or for the Scottish Fire Service College, but, often these organizations will sell spaces to other delegates. We also expect the commercial training arm of one fire and rescue service to put on this course as a public course some time early next year. If you need further information, please get in touch. Details below.
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I should also have mentioned that the FPA also do courses, as do the fire service college. As to whether their courses are decent and within your budget, I could not really comment. You would need to judge for yourself.
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Hi Colin and thanks for your response.
Please could you e-mail any details of courses you are providing in the North of England and prices and discounts :) if any to
paul@fss.uk.com
As I am quite interested in the IFE approved register
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Hi Colin
Likewise if possible could you e-mail the same details and costs to me at gary@4thbridgehouse.freeserve.co.uk (yes i was going for the guiness book of records for the longest recorded e-mail address - but failed!)
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Colin,
Please could you forward details to me also.
Most grateful
P
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Hi guys. The one day courses give an overview of fire risk assessment. To be honest we dont have anything in the way of course info as we deliver them on behalf of training providers, namely BSI and Mid Career College. The BSi courses are run at Chiswick. MCC run then in London and Birmingham mainly. The 3.5 day course is run on behalf of the Northern Ireland Fire Safety Panel. The Panel is a non profit making body that represents all authorities that enforce fire safety legislation in NI. They do the course as a public course in Belfast. Good plane service from the mainland, and we get good rates usually for mainland delegates at the 5 star Hilton. We have a number of courses booked for fire and rescue services on the mainland next year and for the Scottish Fire Service College. In addition, Surrey Fire and Rescue Service will be putting on the course as a public course. I will get a representative of the NI Panel to email you all further information. Thanks for your interest!
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The Fire Service College are currently developing two new courses for next year, one aimed at those who have to carryout RAs and one for those who have to audit them.
If your role is to carryout RAs a course that teaches only one framework may be perfectly adequate. If your role is to audit RAs you need to undertsand what constitutes a suitable & sufficient RA and what is meant by the term significant findings. (The correct definitions that is!) I would suggest attending a course that examines and audits a variety of frameworks & methodologies would most suit inspecting officers.
I would also suggest that FRS IOs should attend courses that look at CFOAs enforcement policy & enforcement model.
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Phil,
Would like to see any info you have or when it comes available.
Ta
P
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I agree Phillip. We are so heavy with demand for such a course that you can have our overflow if you want (but the teaching should not be boring).
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Oh by the way, will the new courses have an examination?
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My courses boring Colllin!!!!!...never...the course for non FRS has an exam linked to Neebosh. New course for FRS will be also be assessed, but unlike some FRA courses...there will be no memory test.
PSmith new details will soon appear on college website but contact me if you require any assistance.
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Hi all.
It would be great If I could be included on the emailed detail of the courses too, particularly the 3.5 day one.
billjordan@firetecnics.bdx.co.uk
many thanks.
Bill
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Assessed how, PhiLip? Are you saying that there is no exam. Exams, PhiLIp do not need to rely on memory. Specifically, the evaluation that we make by examination has no real memory test in it, and the evaluation of the exam and its marking was part of the IFE Approval. And as you are so fond of relaying to people on our behalf, it remains to date the ONLY IFE approved fire risk assessment course. But no doubt the buyer can determine for himself whether any specific course is of the quality they desire. We provide numerous references, and we generally offer fire and rescue services a free place as an observer on a course if they have an interest in providing the course in their FRS. Taste and try before you buy, PhiLip. Not something all trainers are prepared to offer.
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Willie J I cannot see your email address when I llok at your profile. Could I possibly ask that you email Clive Black of the Northern Ireland Fire Safety Panel, requesting information. Email address is: cliveblack@lislone.freeserve.co.uk. Alternatively, if you send me a quick email, I will forward it to him. Further alernatively, he will be pleased to chat to you on his mobile days or evenings on 07731 398466. This offer is also open to all the others who asked about this course.
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lol, Willie J, took me a few minutes to realise you meant me, I am only known as that in Glesga.
I did stick my email addy in the post, thanks for the info, I will certainly get in touch with your man, as It seems that the 3.5 day course one of the more serious contenders out there, I note that you said above, that Surrey FRS are considering presenting the same course, do you have a contact for them.
All I need to do now, is convince the boss to shell out for some real training rather that the usual, look it up approach, I cant imagine she will fund a jolly to Ireland, but fingers crossed she might stretch to Surrey.
Thanks for that.
The P Artist formally known as Bill
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Willie, In Glasgow, they would know you as wUllie, not wIllie. What is it that you actually do for a living? Contact ar Surrey would be Milly o' Ryan of their commercial training arm. Belfast is not that expensive to reach, and you will find that the course cost is very reasonable. If it interests you, let me know , as we often get good rates at hotels over there. Best of luck anyway.
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colinski - are the courses designed for capitalists as i note you seemingly slip in a capital letter into the middle of a word (normally someones name) every now and again? would an attendee need to be able to spot ten differences between yourself and sir digby jones to gain accreditation for the course?
dave bev
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Davey:
1. Sir Digby is 4 years older.
2. Sir Digby is not half as good looking.
3. Sir Digby was brought up in an area of the country where the bolshiness makes you seem like Ken Clarke.
4. Sir Digby was a sailor. I get sick crossing the channel.
5. Sir Digby was in finance. I can never work out what our annual accounts mean.
6. Sir Digby is into the Leicester Tigers. I am into rock music.
7. Sir Digby would not like you. I find you mildly tolerable.
8. Sir Digby is a knight. I just stay up all night, writing inane postings on Firenet during breaks from workload.
9. Sir Digby likes rugby. It always seems to me to be played by men with odd shaped balls.
10. Sir Digby ran the flora marathon. I take the car to the top of the drive to get the newspaper out of the box.
Where is the comparison?????
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mr todd, i note your answer to 'potential' difference number 7. to suggest that old 'diggers' wouldnt like me is an outrage, an affront to my personal dignity,
but then again you may be right.
would anyone else care to try to spot ten differences between mr todd and santa? i know that they both like plum pudding so that is obviously a similarity and not a difference!
dave bev
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May I start the ball rolling. I am not a down and out red all over. Will the Rack cancel Xmas when he comes to power by the way?
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colin, i asked if anyone else -would like to try to spot ten differences - i wouldnt expect santa to reply, so i dont think you should either. it would seem unfair if you replied and he didnt.
ps, i make no comment re cancelling christmas!
dave bev
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Ok Davey, I shall say no more on that matter. However, I would point this out to you. There was once three men walking down the street, a conservative voting member of the FBU council, a kind and generous Scotsman and Santa Clause. Suddenly, they spot a fiver lying on the ground. Which one stops to pick it up?
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Is this is a trick question?
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Is this is a trick question?
Yes. There are no conservative voting members.
:D and =D
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I will await an Answer from Davey, or a correct answer from someone else, before revaling all!
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I would say the Scotman 1st as I have met many a kind Scotman, but never a generous one and maybe this suggests that you are more likley to meet santa than the aforementioned!!
he he he!!
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Paul, You are on the right lines. The answer is santa clause. It must be him, as the other two are merely mythical characters, who, in real life, do not exist.
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To be honest I was going to say that but it was too obvious. Couldn't resist a dig at my Scotish friends..........in good humour all the same.
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you have to have money to be tight,so that stereotype does not apply to me.
Mr Smith-that's two T's in Scottish.
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following on from a previous posting by smiffy, was there a prise in the competition set by mr todd?
my answer would have been
a conservative voting fbu ec member - no because an EC member would not stop that low (think about it!)
a kind and generous scotsman - no because no-one would have seen him do it and he certainly wouldnt tell anybody he'd found a fiver because he may have had to get the beer in - therefore logically no-one could pose the question as to what did happen because there is no evidence to suggest it did!!
santa - therein lies the real answer - remember that the question was set by a scotsman. if santa doesnt exist then the said scotsman would have to buy presents for his 'wee bairns' - if santa does exist then no need to buy presents cos he can blame it on santa when the 'wee bairns' are presentless or dont get what they want on crimbo morning!
so if santa does exist he could have taken the fiver, conveniently allowing the other two to enter the local hostelry, partake of some refreshment and when they go home penniless and persistent, blame it on the fat guy in the red coat for taking the money that was rightfully theirs.
answer complete
dave bev
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Graeme wot wud I doo wifout yo chekin me spellin.
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Davey, you raise an interesting point. If a leaf in a forest falls, but there is no one there to see it fall, does it actually fall. Is the universe really expanding. (and will it all one day be controlled by you and The Rack?
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Graeme wot wud I doo wifout yo chekin me spellin.
Always hoppy to help
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colinski, but there may be evidence of the leaf falling to support your theory - in my answer to the poser you posed i proposed there was no evidence of said dosh, therefore my argument is still valid until shown otherwise not to be.
dave bev
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In a world in which the commies are plotting the downfall of society as we know it, you need to keep your ear to the ground, Davey, to such an extent that, if a fiver falls to the ground in Inverness you can hear it in Edinburgh. Which reminds me (and now old ''we have a problem'' Houston will shift these posts: The lone ranger was riding across the range one day, and he came across Tonto lying on the ground , ear to ground. What do you hear, quoth LR. Tonto replies, a stage coach. one driver, one man riding shotgun, two occupants, one a lady in red dress, other a man in top hat. Stage coach red in colour. Thats amazing, said the LR, and you can tell all this from listening to the ground. No way, says Tonto, the bastards ran me down just 5 minutes ago.
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princess - at least thats a start, anyone else like to add to the festive banter?
dave bev