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PRIVATE INDUSTRY => HealthCare => Topic started by: Midland Retty on October 22, 2012, 02:31:18 PM

Title: Hospital Helipad Fire Protectors
Post by: Midland Retty on October 22, 2012, 02:31:18 PM
This question was raised a couple of years back, and I would be intrested to know if anyone has any fresh information as Im dealing with a hospital which is exploring the idea of providing a helipad fire team.

I've noted that several hospitals have their own firefighters on hand to provide cover helipads / air ambulance landings etc.

Does anyone have info on these fire crews - I pressume they are hospital staff that perform a main role in the hospital (such as porters / janitors) who are on call to perform the firefighting role as an when needed

Also what training do the firefighters receive to perform the role etc.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Hospital Helipad Fire Protectors
Post by: Tom Sutton on October 22, 2012, 08:14:43 PM
Check out

http://www.leedshospitalsfundraising.org.uk/about.php?find=5

http://www.nhslocal.nhs.uk/story/features/who-puts-out-hospital-helipad-fires
Title: Re: Hospital Helipad Fire Protectors
Post by: colin todd on October 22, 2012, 09:53:55 PM
Retters, you ARE going to leave the fire service and become a hospital helipad hero?????????  Well done. If you need a reference, Uncle Colin will sepak up for you.
Title: Re: Hospital Helipad Fire Protectors
Post by: Midland Retty on October 23, 2012, 12:27:29 PM
Thanks Tom much appreciated, and very helpful. I did alot of googling but came up with very little.

Uncle Colin it's very good of you to offer to "sepak" up for me. However I'm not sure if "sepaking" is still legal in England and Wales, and in any event the term may flummox potential employers.
Title: Re: Hospital Helipad Fire Protectors
Post by: Tom W on October 23, 2012, 02:23:36 PM
"Sepak" is the Malay word for kick, is this a threat colin?
Title: Re: Hospital Helipad Fire Protectors
Post by: SamFIRT on October 23, 2012, 06:41:54 PM
Shame ... a man makes an honest mistook and he is castigated.......  :o
Title: Re: Hospital Helipad Fire Protectors
Post by: TallyHo on October 23, 2012, 08:11:13 PM
Leeds and other hospital firefighters do their training at the International Fire Training Centre Teesside

http://www.iftcentre.com/home/
Title: Re: Hospital Helipad Fire Protectors
Post by: colin todd on October 23, 2012, 10:43:47 PM
Retters: We dyslexics rule KO. Thomas, dont tell me you sell Dorgard to the poor unsuspecting malaysians.
Title: Re: Hospital Helipad Fire Protectors
Post by: Tom W on October 24, 2012, 04:37:34 PM
I'm really big in Malaysia. Dorgards are considered "bling" for doors

"Bling (or bling-bling) is a slang term popularized in hip hop culture, referring to flashy, ostentatious or elaborate jewelry and ornamented accessories that are carried, worn or installed, such as cell phones or tooth caps."
Title: Re: Hospital Helipad Fire Protectors
Post by: nearlythere on October 24, 2012, 06:44:06 PM
Shame ... a man makes an honest mistook and he is castigated.......  :o
Castigated? Gosh had to look twice at your comment Sam.
Title: Re: Hospital Helipad Fire Protectors
Post by: SamFIRT on October 24, 2012, 08:29:20 PM
He says in a high pitch voice  8)
Title: Re: Hospital Helipad Fire Protectors
Post by: colin todd on October 24, 2012, 09:44:45 PM
Thomas does the new mrs piglet know about your nefarious activities selling jewelery to the birds in Malaysia.
Title: Re: Hospital Helipad Fire Protectors
Post by: Tom W on October 26, 2012, 10:50:45 AM
As long as it pays for the mini piglets new clothes and toys she will be happy!
Title: Re: Hospital Helipad Fire Protectors
Post by: Midland Retty on October 26, 2012, 11:46:22 AM
OK thanks folks for your replies.

Does anyone know where it states the circumstances that a helipad team must be provided by law? I.e; is it in Civil Aviation Authority regs?
Title: Re: Hospital Helipad Fire Protectors
Post by: jayjay on October 26, 2012, 12:16:30 PM
The Royal Victoria Infirmary Newcastle upon Tyne has recently opend a roof top helipad. The hospital fire officer there would help with any advice maybe worth a call. I do know that Newcastle Airport Fire Crews are involved with training.

Title: Re: Hospital Helipad Fire Protectors
Post by: Midland Retty on October 26, 2012, 01:05:52 PM
Thanks Jay Jay, much appreciated.
Title: Re: Hospital Helipad Fire Protectors
Post by: SamFIRT on October 26, 2012, 09:40:09 PM
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP168.PDF (http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP168.PDF)

See above...

All airfields... and a heli-pad is classed as an airfield, have to have the appropriate category fire fighting cover according to CAA rules. The minimum is cat 1 which will be trained occasional fire fighters with hand held fire fighting appliances, usually found at grass strips, up to Cat 10 like Heathrow.
Aerodrome Category
(RFF)
Aeroplane Overall Length
Maximum Fuselage
Width
Special up to but not including 9m 2m
1 up to but not including 9m 2m
2 9m up to but not including 12m 2m
3 12m up to but not including 18m 3m
4 18m up to but not including 24m 4m
5 24m up to but not including 28m 4m
6 28m up to but not including 39m 5m
7 39m up to but not including 49m 5m
8 49m up to but not including 61m 7m
9 61m up to but not including 76m 7m
10 76m up to but not including 90m 8m
Title: Re: Hospital Helipad Fire Protectors
Post by: Midland Retty on October 29, 2012, 12:34:42 PM
Thanks Sam very helpful!
Title: Re: Hospital Helipad Fire Protectors
Post by: SandDancer on October 29, 2012, 01:29:15 PM
for non airfield regs see CAP 789  http://www.skybrary.aero/bookshelf/books/1654.pdf

Annex 3 to Chapter 21 would cover Hospital movements  ;)
Title: Re: Hospital Helipad Fire Protectors
Post by: Midland Retty on October 29, 2012, 02:43:30 PM
Thanks Sandancer