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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => Fire Safety => Topic started by: kurnal on June 15, 2014, 10:30:04 PM
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This thread is to be used to discuss any details of enforcement action or prosecutions of fire consultants or safety consultants under UK fire Legislation
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Not fire safety but has anyone come across a report of an outside employer or employee entering a room of a building and falling to his death or serious injury because the floor was missing? Seem to remember something in papers or somewhere else about this.
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Hi NT - I'll try and find out some more detail if this is any good to you but I know of a woman in a housing block who was intoxicated and managed to open a smoke vent door which didn't have any fall protection and subsequently fell - not sure whether she survived the fall.
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An engineer who was checking smoke detectors at a Worksop factory died after walking through a door which had not been opened for a decade, his inquest heard.
Nigel Chester, aged 46, from Nottingham, suffered head injuries when he fell 13ft to the floor at Premier Foods, Claylands Avenue on May 1, last year.
The inquest in Nottingham heard Mr Chester, who worked for ADT Fire and Security, had a master key and walked through a door which had a sign warning of a four metre drop the other side.
He hit his head on a metal machine used to make gravy granules and OXO cubes.
http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/crime/engineer-died-at-worksop-food-factory-after-falling-into-a-void-behind-door-1-7011573
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The door was to a proposed walkway that was never built, they just locked it rather than sealing it or blocking it up - it's just been prosecuted but I can't find a link
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Thanks folks. Thats the one AB ta.
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NT, doing an electrical inspection in Ballynahinch. Opened a door trying to trace a high level cable. Almost fell down the lift shaft. Lift from sales floor to basement had been removed!
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Surely people look where they are going ???
Rule 1 - never just walk through any old door
Rule 2 - never let a door shut behind you without checking if you can open it again
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Lyyyylllllleeeeeeeeeeeeee..........
Could've thrown a stone down first to see how deep it was!
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Squeezed in amongst the prosecution of the landlord is the fact the assessor he employed got convicted as well:
"The court also heard how Mr Waraich requested the services of fire risk assessor, Saira Hussain, to complete risk assessment of his property.
The fire risk assessment completed by Ms Hussain was so inadequate she was prosecuted by GMFRS.
Ms Hussain, 27, of Halifax Street, Brierfield, Lancashire, was sentenced to a community order with 140 hours of unpaid work and ordered to pay ?1385 prosecution costs after pleading guilty to failing to make a suitable and sufficient fire risk assessment.
Recorder Cross QC told her: ?You were a professional offering a service and you put profit before safety.
?You have lost you professional reputation and you have lost your good character. Your risk assessment was wholly ineffective and deficient.
?If people had died you would have found yourself in the dock charged with manslaughter.?"
http://www.manchesterfire.gov.uk/updates/news/26june2015_landlord_handed_prison_sentence_for_failing_to_keep_his_tenants_safe/
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Incidentally the 'risk assessor' has already used their EU given rights to hide nearly every reference to their case from Google searches......but their is always a way around it....the lesson to be learned is not to get an architect to do your FRA (found the firm, they are the 'CEO & Founder')
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Is the risk assessor on any of the registers, Tony?
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No, Neither via the corporate BAFE route or the individual IFE/IFPO/IFSM route.
It would have been interesting to see it to work out what constituted not suitable or sufficient in GMFRS's eyes
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Posted in the main prosecution thread but note
A fire risk assessment was provided but this was found to be wholly inadequate.
For carrying out an inadequate fire risk assessment a third defendant Dean Venkatasamy received a 12 week prison sentence, suspended for one year, at Friday's hearing .
http://t.co/X8p9EaRX6q
It seems slowly but surely those providing defective FRAs for others are being put in the dock.
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Is the risk assessor on any of the registers, Tony?
Do we know of any attempted or successful prosecutions of assessors that are on any of the registers?
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I put venkatasamy into Google and pictures of ladies came up, one wearing a skimpy gold thong and another with a chest the size of the average two up two down in Eccles. I lost interest in Mr V after that.
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Surely people look where they are going ???
Rule 1 - never just walk through any old door
Rule 2 - never let a door shut behind you without checking if you can open it again
Fire alarm Engineers normally walk about looking up at the ceilings ;)