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Title: Fire alarm panel location
Post by: Revol on June 18, 2020, 09:24:32 AM
There was a note in BS 5839-1 2013 that more or less said, in buildings that don?t have 24/7 management, it?s a good idea to locate the fire alarm panel in a location that can be seen from outside by the attending fire service. The idea being that they may be able to determine if it?s a confimred fire before they kick the door in (I?m sure the BSI committee express this more eloquently).

This note doesn?t appear in the 2017 revision ? does anyone know why it disappeared?
Title: Re: Fire alarm panel location
Post by: colin todd on June 19, 2020, 01:24:01 AM
Was a thing of the past.
Title: Re: Fire alarm panel location
Post by: Revol on June 30, 2020, 09:04:03 PM
Cheers Colin
Title: Re: Fire alarm panel location
Post by: colin todd on July 03, 2020, 12:11:03 AM
I cant believe I helped an AI though. Dammit, I will never get to heaven now.
Title: Re: Fire alarm panel location
Post by: kml on July 07, 2020, 01:30:01 PM
Don't worry your knowledge and experience would only be wasted there - the other place is much more suited to your talents.
Title: Re: Fire alarm panel location
Post by: Revol on July 07, 2020, 08:45:53 PM
'When I die I'm going to heaven because I've spent my time in hell'
Title: Re: Fire alarm panel location
Post by: colin todd on July 08, 2020, 11:57:43 PM
In November, I experience (maybe suffer is a better word) my 45th anniversary in fire safety. God will embrace me in heaven for the pain and suffering  of 45 years of dealing with firemen.
Title: Re: Fire alarm panel location
Post by: colin todd on July 08, 2020, 11:58:50 PM
When one dines with an AI, it is always prudent to take a long spoon.
Title: Re: Fire alarm panel location
Post by: Graeme on July 15, 2020, 04:58:29 PM
From experience it would not matter if they could see the panel from outside - they need the zone chart to cross reference

unless of course its a Graphics panel  ;)
Title: Re: Fire alarm panel location
Post by: Revol on July 18, 2020, 11:59:34 AM
When one dines with an AI, it is always prudent to take a long spoon.

Bravo!   

I'm tempted to get this printed on a T-shirt
Title: Re: Fire alarm panel location
Post by: Fishy on July 29, 2020, 08:27:40 AM
...the pain and suffering  of 45 years of dealing with firemen...

I was going to chastise you for not using the term "firefighters", but on second thoughts I've only ever had problems with the males of the species, so you're spot on...
Title: Re: Fire alarm panel location
Post by: colin todd on July 29, 2020, 11:57:49 PM
JockAI, I will buy some of these tee shirts. They will be good for zoom meetings with LABC. if you get a couple, I will pay by return.  Extra Large please.
Title: Re: Fire alarm panel location
Post by: colin todd on July 30, 2020, 12:00:52 AM
Fishface, sadly just as you now get female body builders and airline pilots, you now get fascist aggressive female firemen. Did you know you cant use the word manhole any more, though a contractor only this week came to repair one in our private lane at goodness knows what cost.

I have to tell you though, Frankie that my urban street vocab was enhanced by two new words this week. Someone told me I am woke, which he advised me means alert to the injustices of society (who wouldnt be after 45 years of dealing with firemen and civil servants). Then a Borough Commander of LFB ( a surprisingly delightful chap) told me that my idea for a facility at a block of flats for the firemen was "Gucci"  I had to ask one of his junior officers what the hell he was talking about and how to spell it ( I assumed Gutchi) but apparently it meant he loved my idea.

I am hoping to find an opportunity to include the words in an expert witness report sometime.

All the best bruv.
Title: Re: Fire alarm panel location
Post by: Messy on July 31, 2020, 06:55:19 PM
.  a Borough Commander of LFB ( a surprisingly delightful chap) told me that my idea for a facility at a block of flats for the firemen was "Gucci"  I had to ask one of his junior officers what the hell he was talking about and how to spell it ( I assumed Gutchi) but apparently it meant he loved my idea.


As you have demonstrated Colin, There's always something to learn when you hob nob with officers from the finest fire brigade in the UK  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Fire alarm panel location
Post by: colin todd on August 01, 2020, 01:29:26 AM
Yes, but mostly never to employ ex officers of LFB, which remains company policy.
Title: Re: Fire alarm panel location
Post by: Graeme on August 02, 2020, 09:55:09 PM


All the best bruv.

Its Bro now Colin
Title: Re: Fire alarm panel location
Post by: Messy on August 04, 2020, 03:41:30 PM
Yes, but mostly never to employ ex officers of LFB, which remains company policy.

I am loving the insertion of the word 'mostly' Colin. Go on, admit it, that this there to give you a means of escape in case I ever come knocking with my CV isn't it?  ::) :o
Title: Re: Fire alarm panel location
Post by: colin todd on August 05, 2020, 12:23:24 AM
Grey Ham, when did it change to Bro??? Should I now drop bruv from my vocabulary or is it still accepted urban slang.

Messey: recruitment@cstodd.co.uk is the address you will need, but your cv is likely to be filtered from onward transmission to me if the word London appears anywhere in it. I would suggest you just refer to employment by a large metropolitan FRS in a capital city though not that of Scotland, NI or wales. In the covering letter, say you want to join us to receive proper training for the first time in your fire safety career. We are so overloaded at the moment that we might give you a telephone interview, but do remember not if the word London appears in your cv. Mention Scotland, even if it only to say you once went there on holiday with Mrs Messey and the Kids and enjoyed the warmth of the welcome to someone so unworthy of the hospitality.
Title: Re: Fire alarm panel location
Post by: Graeme on August 07, 2020, 12:43:25 PM
Col  ;)- since Love Island hit our TV's
Title: Re: Fire alarm panel location
Post by: lyledunn on August 07, 2020, 09:50:25 PM
.  a Borough Commander of LFB ( a surprisingly delightful chap) told me that my idea for a facility at a block of flats for the firemen was "Gucci"  I had to ask one of his junior officers what the hell he was talking about and how to spell it ( I assumed Gutchi) but apparently it meant he loved my idea.


As you have demonstrated Colin, There's always something to learn when you hob nob with officers from the finest fire brigade in the UK  ::) ::)
I used to learn a lot from you fellas but this forum seems to be far too easily diverted from reasonably serious discussion on fire safety matters in favour of the futility of badinage. I thought there was a particular topic area on the forum set aside for those who felt the need to talk crap.
Title: Re: Fire alarm panel location
Post by: colin todd on August 08, 2020, 12:07:36 AM
What does badinage mean?
Title: Re: Fire alarm panel location
Post by: AnthonyB on August 08, 2020, 07:36:11 PM
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/badinage

conversation or remarks that are joking and not serious
Synonyms
banter
raillery (formal)
Title: Re: Fire alarm panel location
Post by: Messy on August 09, 2020, 06:19:18 PM
.  a Borough Commander of LFB ( a surprisingly delightful chap) told me that my idea for a facility at a block of flats for the firemen was "Gucci"  I had to ask one of his junior officers what the hell he was talking about and how to spell it ( I assumed Gutchi) but apparently it meant he loved my idea.


As you have demonstrated Colin, There's always something to learn when you hob nob with officers from the finest fire brigade in the UK  ::) ::)
I used to learn a lot from you fellas but this forum seems to be far too easily diverted from reasonably serious discussion on fire safety matters in favour of the futility of badinage. I thought there was a particular topic area on the forum set aside for those who felt the need to talk crap.

You are right, but he started it  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Fire alarm panel location
Post by: colin todd on August 09, 2020, 11:15:00 PM
You invaded Poland, Messey.  Tony, thanks for that. Seems to fit.